Doctor Who 7.2
Doctor Who 7.2
#1Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 11:39am
What did people think of last nights episode?
I think that it was a little lax in the plot but, it is looking like The Great Intelligence is the big baddy. I do love me some Celia Imrie though.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#2Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 12:05pm
"I do love me some Celia Imrie though."
Have you seen the sitcom "After You've Gone"?
#2Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 12:34pmIs that the one when she is the grandmother living in the house?
Gothampc
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#3Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 12:45pmWell she's not actually living in the house, but yes. She and her son-in-law have to take care of the children.
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#4Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 3:22pmIt was one of those episodes where the plot took a backseat, but I think Clara will be great.
JbaraFan1
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#5Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 5:20pmI thought the plot was a bit silly but enjoyed watching nonetheless. The anti-gravity motorcycle going up the building was a pretty cool effect.
HoldThatThought
Stand-by Joined: 7/15/12
#6Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 7:24pmI thought it was just alright. Pretty typical of most of the Who episodes since Moffat took over the helm. I thought they were suppose to answer the "why" of Clara showing up in different points in time. Did the Doctor figure it out, and I just missed it, or did he casually mention it and sort of sweep it under the rug?
#7Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 3/31/13 at 7:47pm
Not my favorite episode, but I'm eager for the rest of the season. And of course the 50th anniversary, especially with the announcement that David Tennant (who was my Doctor) and Billie Piper are returning!
Speaking of which, anyone else think that Clara saying the "girl in the shop" gave her the TARDIS number was a reference to Rose and that's going to come back again? We never did find out how exactly she had that number.
#8Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 6:33pm
I thought they were suppose to answer the "why" of Clara showing up in different points in time. Did the Doctor figure it out, and I just missed it, or did he casually mention it and sort of sweep it under the rug?
I believe that will be the big mystery of the entire season. Not something we'd learn during a premiere.
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HoldThatThought
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#9Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 7:52pm
^Thanks Patronus, will do!
"speaking of which, anyone else think that Clara saying the "girl in the shop" gave her the TARDIS number was a reference to Rose and that's going to come back again? We never did find out how exactly she had that number."
Now that you mention it, they never revealed that either. Guess we'll have to wait for that answer too!
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#10Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 7:56pmThere's a theory in some places online that Clara is Rose's daughter with Human!Doctor, fueled by David and Billie returning.
HoldThatThought
Stand-by Joined: 7/15/12
#11Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 8:27pmI haven't heard that one, Wynbish. But the return of David Tennant seems to go against the Who canon. AFAIK, they've never brought back a previous doctor to replace a current one. It could be a way to extend the 12 doctor regeneration limit. The latest I heard is that Matt Smith is signed up for the eighth season (2013- 2014). Maybe Tenant and Piper would come back after that? Hmmm.
#12Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 8:56pm
There is no "return of David Tennant".
David Tennant and Billie Piper have signed to the 50th Anniversary Who special. Not return to the series as regulars.
David Tennant will not be "12".
There is no official "12 doctor regeneration limit". That's a reference to "The Deadly Assassin" with Four in 1976 saying that he could only regenerate 12 times. However, the canon has evolved since then and there are multiple references to the Doctor having a much longer limit. In the episode "The Death of the Doctor" in the "Sarah Jane Adventures" He's asked how many times he can regenerate and replies, "Five Hundred and seven."
The belief is that the "12 Limit" was something imposed by the Time Lord Council. However as they are no longer around and the Doctor" is the only Time Lord and has had no problems defying their laws I think it's safe to say that the Doctor will regenerate as many times as they need him to do to meet the desires and demands of actors and storytelling.
Smith is not signed for the 8th season at this time.
There are multiple examples of previous Doctors interacting with current doctors, though it hasn't been as common in the Davies/Moffatt reboot as in the old school series.
#13Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 11:17pm
Matt Smith is set to stay with the show through 2014
http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/9570/sigh-of-relief-matt-smith-is-back-in-2014.html
The 12 regeneration is an actual thing and the 507 times was a joke admitted by RTD. However the 12 regeneration clause already has an out through the act of one River Song.
Whether giving up her regenerations to the doctor only brought him back to life or whether he gained her remaining regenerations it's unknown, but it's definitely possible to overrule 12 regenerations with more than just "Cause I can."
#14Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 11:35pm
"I thought they were suppose to answer the "why" of Clara showing up in different points in time."
Yes, just like they explained Bad Wolf was Rose in the first episode of season 1, announced that The Master was Mr. Saxon in season 3 episode 1, that the Daleks were stealing all the planets at the start of season 4, the cracks in the universe were caused by the TARDIS exploding in season 5 episode 1, and River Song will kill the Doctor in season 6 episode 1.
Do you even watch this show?
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Wynbish
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#15Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/1/13 at 11:59pm
David's return for a special episode does not at all mean he's 12. It just could mean that if Rose can get back to this dimension for a bit, then maybe her Tenth-Doctor-lookalike buddy can as well. Or maybe there is a way to bring back Ten for a couple of scenes, through some wibbly-wobbly wonder they've done before. I mean, he has his Doctor sideburns back
Updated On: 4/2/13 at 11:59 PM
#16Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 4/2/13 at 9:52amI also read on one of the many news articles about the 50th anniversary episode, that it is going to be about 90 minutes and may be released in theaters in 3D. PLEASE MOFFET MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
#17Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/15/13 at 4:07pmJust a bump in anticipation of Saturday's finale. Does anyone actually think they'll reveal the name? I find that highly unlikely. But hoping for a little light shed on the mystery of Clara.
#18Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/15/13 at 5:03pmCan I just say how OVER Clara I am? Nothing about her has struck a chord with me. And I don't like the writing of this season either. In my opinion, they need to go back to the original format of the rebooted series and stop the "movie a week" format.
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#19Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/15/13 at 5:05pm
I've been slightly disappointed by this season. There have been too many episodes where I have not been able to follow what the heck is going on in the plot until the final 10 minutes or so of wrap-up. The scripts are overly saturated with red herrings to a point that I can't decipher what's really going on.
Once the ending has been revealed, I work backwards (rewind) to figure out what transpired.
And Clara's arc? Not enough time has been spent on revealing clues to her back story. Nearly everything she's done this season was to show how easily she can "trump" the Doctor in resolving the unrelated side plots. I feel "teased" to death (tons of "teasers" that the tiny, meaningless crumbs thrown to me will be given more explanation, but have no follow-through).
And it's the FINALE already? We just got two brand new (but unnecessary) companions last week!!!
Ugh... I miss Rory and Amy.
Updated On: 5/15/13 at 05:05 PM
#20Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/15/13 at 5:28pm
Agree with everything you said, John. I was ready for Amy to bid farewell by the end of her run but now I want her and Rory back. All this "Who IS Clara?" arc has me going, "WHO CARES?" Moffatt and team has given us nothing to attach our interest to her. She always has the, "I'm better than you" attitude and smirk and I want the Doctor to finally snap and slap it off her face. And don't even get me started on those annoying a$$ kids last week. What was the point of them? Also, how did they find all those pictures of Clara? And who goes, "That girl looks like our nanny......she must be a time traveler?" The writing is just bad this season (and I include the last few episodes of Rory and Amy.....although I do love "Angels Take Manhattan."
#21Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/15/13 at 5:39pmOn a side note.....a part of me feels that this is going to be River's last episode before she is sent off to the library to meet Tennant. She whispered his name to him in that episode and the finale is called "The Name of the Doctor." Plus, there is talk of a possible River Song spin off so this could be a jumping off point for that to get her away from the Doctor.
#22Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/15/13 at 6:51pm
EW's recap of the last episode had a paragraph that I think sums up this problem perfectly: the relationship between Doctor and companion, which should be the heart of the show, is vague and undefined.
"Jenna-Louise Coleman is an impossible charming screen presence, but Clara hasn't quite set herself apart from past Companions yet. I think the main problem is that the show hasn't quite figured out what her specific Doctor-Companion dynamic is yet. The Doctor and Rose were master/pupil (with Eccleston) and will they/won't they (with Tennant.) The Doctor and Donna were best pals, platonic friends until the end.
The Doctor and Amy had a whole wild host of issues which were brilliantly set up almost immediately: The Doctor as Amy's imaginary friend, Amy as the Girl Who Waited, the initial romantic-triangle with Rory, the frequently-stated possibility that the Doctor was actually a remnant of Amy's youth which she had to leave behind. And I know not everyone loves the Martha Jones era, but I always liked the core nature of the Martha-Doctor era. Martha fell for him almost immediately; he just wasn't that into her; he knew that, but kept her around to stave off loneliness, and revealed himself as a bit of a selfish ass in the process."
I realized this is true: Rose was the Doctor's love; Martha the "rebound" admirer; Donna the best friend; River the mysterious partner; and Amy and Rory were his family- they were his parents(-in-law), siblings, and children all at once. Clara is just there right now, which makes it hard to connect emotionally.
#23Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/16/13 at 9:59am
I agree completely with the above sentiments re: Clara. Coleman is obviously a charming and talented actor, but the character has very few (if any) defining characteristics. This is a problem because every other companion in NuWho maintained very specific qualities that set them apart from the rest.
I understand the point of her story is to keep the mystery about her going throughout the season, but it keeps her at arm's length from the viewer, and the "mystery" has made zero advances since the Christmas special. We have learned nothing new about her in weeks. In fact, we know more about parents than we do about her.
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#24Doctor Who 7.2
Posted: 5/16/13 at 10:17am
I think the disconnect with Clara has been how The Doctor has felt about her. If he (and the Tardis) has not been comfortable or assured with her, how can the audience? We're on his side.
And it's a pet peeve, but I don't like how The Doctor drops companions off back home and will pick them back up later. Commit to the companionship! Either be there, or stay home. It's a time machine. If he picks you up on May 16, 2013, he can probably have you back by May 17, 2013, even if you spent a month with him.
I wonder if the inclusion of kids last week was an attempt to treat the audience of Sarah Jane's show, which was the more kid-friendly version of Doctor Who.
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