Ellen's Emotional Plea- Page 12

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 1:23pm

With everything else going on...


Why is the focus "Well, she signed a contract!!!"



Here it is.

She made sure the animal was going into a home where it was loved.

Is that a problem?

It's a ****ing dog. Dogs KNOW where they want to be. Don't get all high and mighty.

I live next door to a woman, who has a full time job rescuing animals. I see them EVERY DAY. And all they are looking for is a home where the person wants them.

I'm not going to be elegant about this. But PRS,



Shut up.




When was the last time YOU saved an animal?

(I'm very against posting this...but I'm getting mad.)

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 1:27pm

Yes, it is a problem. She signed a contract. She didn't have the right to give the dog to another family.

It is very hard on the dog and I get that. I feel very sorry for the dog in this situation, however it goes back to Ellen. SHE is the one that put the dog and the family and the Rescue into that situation.

It's very simple.

The Rescue doesn't allow dogs into homes with children. Stupid rule? Perhaps - but if she felt that way she should have gone to a different rescue.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 1:30pm

So, what do you think about illegal aliens?




They signed nothing.

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 1:32pm

Wow - that's quite a leap.

Updated On: 10/18/07 at 01:32 PM

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 1:42pm

Unless you have stood next to a ‘celebrity’ then maybe this isn’t clear.

All of the work that a sales person would do on a ‘normal’ person flys right out the door.

The sales people get stupid, and tounge-tied.

If the basis of your case is “She should have read the contract before she signed”… Then maybe you should focus on the people that were working at the ‘shelter’ and ask them why they didn’t ask her to read the paperwork before she signed it. I KNOW they just shoved it in front of her.


Ellen wasn’t signing a contract for her show, she wanted to adopt a dog.

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 1:49pm

I've stood next to "celebrities" both as fan and friend many times and I understand the way people treat them as deities.

Again...I don't care of it's Ellen or some random stranger.

The fact that it is a celebrity means she should have been all the more careful about signing her name on a contract. She was entering in an agreement with a company. At the very least she should have had people to read every last line of that contract (or any contract) before she agrees to it.

The fact that people act like idiots and could potentially "forget to mention key details" is all the more reason that Ellen should have been more diligent in protecting herself.

Look, I don't hate Ellen at all. In fact, she seems like a lovely person who just made a stupid mistake. That said she should have to live with the consequences of her mistake.

The fact that the Rescue is being so anal about the rules and removing the dog and being resistant to the pressure leads me to believe they probably didn't do the star struck forget to mention the details thing. It seems to be a pretty big sticking point for them.

Do we know if this company has any other celebrity clients?
Updated On: 10/18/07 at 01:49 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 2:46pm

PRS,

What is your point?

Do you just hate anything about animal adoption or is it just Ellen?

Why be proud of posting a link to some no-body who says this about animals...

"Animals, as well we all know, are crap. Noisy, hairy ****ting machines who only live to drag the corpses of other animals into your house, the lot of them. And yet celebrities love their animals."

Is it that you hate animals? Or just celebrities?

I hate neither. But I also don't believe in thinking a celebrity is right just because she is a celebrity. As I've said about 650 times, I have nothing against Ellen. I just think she's in the wrong here. (Incidentally, it's a shame you've reached the age you have and can't discern satire when you read it.)

And, since no one seems to be able to understand that rescues have their own rules and regulations about who they will allow to take a dog, I'll repeat myself. And again, it's not shelter. The words aren't interchangeable.

Ellen wasn't equipped to handle the dog, and she wasn't equipped to deal with the repercussions, either. Why should the rescue assume she's equipped to find a proper owner for it?

If the basis of your case is “She should have read the contract before she signed”… Then maybe you should focus on the people that were working at the ‘shelter’ and ask them why they didn’t ask her to read the paperwork before she signed it. I KNOW they just shoved it in front of her.

Christ, do you have any sense of personal responsibility? If someone shoves something in front of my face to sign, I read it. This discussion amazes me if for nothing more than the fact that only five people in this country seem to think they should read things before they put their signature on it.

As for the tiresome (though probably inevitable, considering) mention of illegal aliens, Rhonda and I both would like to add a "WTF?"

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 3:11pm

And it's very interesting that you would qualify the writer of that link as a "nobody," as though I should only the opinions of the famous are important.

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 3:13pm

Just curious, Phyllis. What do you think about Haitian Refugees and stale jujubees?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 3:15pm

Depends. Are the refugees famous?

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 3:27pm

folks the truth of the matter (and i got this straight from the p*ssy) is that ellen came home and found the pooch and portia in flagrante. ellen then dragged the dog out of the house and gave it to her hairdresser who promised to "accidentally" leave the dog outside a korean restaurant while having her nails done. the fact that the kids even saw the dog was happenstance. fortunately, the cats got word to the folks at that place whose name i can't remember now because i really haven't been following this but so enjoy coming into a thread and hanging nooses on the doors and they were able to save poochie mcpuppy from ending up being topped with kimchi (as opposed to portia).

i find the whole thing pretty sick myself and cannot stand any of the people involved. especially that portia. how could she choose a dog over ellen and ellen over me? bitch!

Updated On: 10/18/07 at 03:27 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 3:33pm

Martina thinks your plight is funny.

And who cares about Portia? She's not even half as famous as Ellen.

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 4:25pm

Depends. Are the refugees famous?

It's possible. One of them reminded me of Lauryn Hill.

What do you think about Hawaiian monkey trainers?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:11pm

I think that everyone has to make a living.

What do you think about the price of tomatoes in Alaska?

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:42pm

Are they famous tomatoes?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:49pm

No, but they're killer.

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 5:58pm

Then I am quite angry and believe they should be killed.

What do you think about Greenland's Horticulture? (yet another example of something that is a much of a correlation to the original topic of this thread as illegal aliens were)
Updated On: 10/18/07 at 05:58 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 6:01pm

That you can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 6:20pm

...& believe me, fred thompson has tried.

[Patronus]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:45pm

::rimshot::

Why do I fear that world will magically bring Papa in here?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:52pm

Is it possible that this really isn't about the dog at all? Perhaps Ellen can't read (as evidenced by her not reading the contract) and this is all a smokescreen to divert attention from that.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:54pm

She obviously could read the stage direction [wipe nose on wrist, hide behind palm, sob] on the teleprompter.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 7:57pm

Cold, man. That's just cold.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 8:01pm

I just found a blog (to which I will not link) that acknlowleges that the women from the rescue have received death threats and then proceeds to post one of the women's home phone number. Later on, though, someone else posts the blog writer's address and phone number.

People is crazy, right Beatriz?

[The Boy From Ohio]

Posted: 10/18/07 at 8:33pm

Didn't Portia sign the ill-fated contract?