Ellen's Emotional Plea
#325im makin mufens for crak babbies
Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:54pm
UGH,
I read the entire thread
PLEASE tell me where I said the people can't voice whatever opinion they wish?
How about if you dont like my plea for kindness you "Deal with it"?
Oh, and when did I say that I thought others would all agree with me?
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#327im makin mufens for crak babbies
Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:56pm
Dude, you need to chill before you have an aneurysm.
Updated On: 10/18/07 at 10:56 PM
#328im makin mufens for crak babbies
Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:59pmnot gonna happen, I am however going to bed.
#329im makin mufens for crak babbies
Posted: 10/18/07 at 10:59pm
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#330im makin mufens for crak babbies
Posted: 10/18/07 at 11:01pmGood night! I hope you have lots of smug and superior dreams! See you next time you drop in!
#331im makin mufens for crak babbies
Posted: 10/18/07 at 11:14pmWell that was fun to read.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#332im makin mufens for crak babbies
Posted: 10/18/07 at 11:17pm
If Ellen is reading this I just want to apologize on behalf of mesmerized24601. I don't know what gets into him sometimes.
Where is Coop? Come back, girl! I need your legal expertise.
#334The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:14pm
Wow, so now it's just gets wierder...
My neighbor (The Dog Rescuer) forwarded me an email stating that this is not the first time Ellen's done this:
Date: 2007-10-18, 9:50AM PDT
People really need to know the WHOLE story before forming opinions.
Does everyone know that:
1) This is the THIRD dog Ellen has adopted and given away in less than two years?
2) Ellen had adopted another dog from the same Boutique a week earlier and brought it back... then adopted Iggy? That makes FOUR. A week is not long enough to let a puppy and a household adjust together.
3) Ellen had the dog a couple of weeks - how the hell did she spend $3000 on it? It simply didn't happen. Iggy was fixed when she adopted him. The fact that she talks about her financial investment in Iggy yet nobody mentions the fact that the rescue has both a financial and an emotional investment in the dog. For all we know Marina could have bottle-fed that puppy every two hours for weeks to save it's little life. She has every right to decide what is best for the puppy - she's spent FAR more time with that pup than Ellen or the hairdresser did.
4) Did you see the hairdresser's dog? Filthy and matted. Probably outdoors all day while mommy is is a set hairdresser for 12 hours a day. Not even close to a good environment for a puppy.
5) Did you also notice the balls hanging off the back of the hairdresser's dog? The hairdresser's little white mess of a dog is unaltered... rescues don't place pets into homes that have other unaltered pets for good reason. Unaltered dogs are more aggressive - again, not a good environment for a puppy. The fact that he's unaltered is probably why he's not allowed in the house.
6) There was a bag of Kibbles and Bits by the back door. Talk about crap. Might as well feed a dog Taco Bell. Not good for a puppy either. These are the type of people who carry Prada purses and have leather couches and feed their dogs K&B? Lovely.
On top of all that - how do we know that this family hasn't had a crappy pet history? Maybe they have dumped a dog at a shelter... maybe they've had a dog hit by a car (or more than one)... maybe they have de-barked a dog at some point... there are lots of other reasons that even though they may seem like good people, they are not good pet guardians. Period.
So many of these news stories have been skewed. "Mean, bitch of a rescuer steals dog from the arms of crying children"... you BET YOUR ASS SHE DID. Rescue isn't about PEOPLE - it's about ANIMAL WELFARE.
So - Marina - you GO girl. You did right by that puppy no matter what anyone says. The rescue community is behind you 100%.
"
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#335The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:24pm
3) Ellen had the dog a couple of weeks - how the hell did she spend $3000 on it? It simply didn't happen.
See, I thought that, too. She kept mentioning she spent three grand on adoption and training, etc, and I always suspected that she was being disingenuous conflating it all like that.
Of course, no one knows if this email is on the level, but it does raise points that a lot of us have been making - that perhaps the rescue agency does know what they're doing more than someone removed from the situation might.
#336The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:27pm
So does this mean the Anne Heche was the "normal" one?
Updated On: 10/19/07 at 12:27 PM
#337The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:29pm
Excuse me for my cynicism, but I was just thinking-if I gave a dog to some friends and then it turned out that I had made a mistake in doing so, and the dog was removed, um, I'm sure I'd feel pretty bad for a while, But I am more sure that I wouldn't have a huge emotional breakdown, on camera, cry my eyes out as if a parent had died, have to cancel a taping, etc.
I know I'm comparing myself to her and we're two different people, but IMO she should be even stronger -strong enough to rein things in on national tv. There are folks in show business who have had much worse things happen in their lives-tragedies, in fact, and they go on with the show without letting the world know.
I think she's either emotionally unbalanced, or is doing it for effect.
Again, excuse me, but I am a cynic!
#338The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:30pmI don't know if you spelled her name wrong intentionally SOMMS, but it's funny anyway b/c Hecht's is a lumber store (like home depot).
LaurenB
Broadway Star Joined: 6/17/04
#339The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:32pm
"So does this mean the Anne Heche was the "normal" one?"
LOL
"I think she's either emotionally unbalanced, or is doing it for effect."
I didn't think she was that good an actress.
#340The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:34pm
"So does this mean the Anne Heche was the "normal" one?"
Haha, good one!
#341The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:38pmJane2, I totally agree with your post.
#342The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 12:48pmThanks Dottie, I'm glad~
JasonM12480
Broadway Star Joined: 3/17/05
#343The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 1:58pm
6) There was a bag of Kibbles and Bits by the back door. Talk about crap. Might as well feed a dog Taco Bell. Not good for a puppy either. These are the type of people who carry Prada purses and have leather couches and feed their dogs K&B? Lovely.
There are millions of people who feed their pets Kibbles & Bits every day, and their dogs are perfectly fine and healthy. Get real.
... maybe they've had a dog hit by a car (or more than one)...
So, people purposefully choose to have their dogs hit by cars? They actually stand out in the street, and say "Muffy - see that car coming? Go get it, girl! Go get hit by that car!" Again - get real. These are not justifications for the childish behavior exhibited by the animal "rescue" people.
#344The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 2:28pm
"So, people purposefully choose to have their dogs hit by cars? They actually stand out in the street, and say "Muffy - see that car coming? Go get it, girl! Go get hit by that car!" Again - get real."
No, but responsible pet owners keep pets confined to a home or enclosed yard or runner. Outside of those situations a responsible pet owner will have their pet on a solid leash. In fact, that's the law in most places. I'm not saying that responsible pet owners never have pets that get run over by cars. But if someone has had a few dogs run over by cars, it is likely that they are not being responsible enough to keep their pets safe and it could be inferred that they might not be a good home for pets.
It really amazes me how polarizing this issue is. I can't fathom the people siding with Ellen (as I'm sure they can't fathom my position) and her self centered histrionic whining that the rules don't really apply to her, do they? I see rules as good. They provide order in a society filled with egos, tantrums, entitlements and expectations. Uniform application of rules is what gives us equity.
I think the case-by-case theory some have suggested is an invitation to chaos and increased tantrums and expectations as everybody begins to insist that they are the ones worthy of the exception.
Just as in our legal system. If you don't like the rule, work to have the rule changed. Don't insist you won't abide by it because you don't like it. Plus it's their organization with their rule. if you don't like their apples, don't shake their tree.
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#345The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 2:38pmi excpect Ellen to get out of a car with no panties next.
#346The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 2:45pm
In fact, dogs getting run over by cars is usually a perfect example of what happens when people think that the rules don't really apply to them.
Oh fluffy is well behaved. He never leaves my side. I'm watching him and he really Hates things around his nec....BAM!
#347The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 2:47pmSo true scallion. Good point.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#348The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 2:54pm
I just can't believe a woman whose coming out made the cover of Time can't keep her sh*t together over this.
And the tide really does seem to be turning against her. There are more and more negative articles - even the person who started this thread is starting to question things. This could end up being a PR nightmare.
I wonder if anyone involved with her show tried to sway her from airing her breakdown on tv.
Updated On: 10/19/07 at 02:54 PM
#349The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 3:06pmThis is definitely a lose-lose situation for her. If one didn't care for her before, her breakdown on television probably didn't win anyone over. For those who liked her, that same breakdown showed her in a different light (and not a good one at that). I like her, but the clip is just pathetic.
JasonM12480
Broadway Star Joined: 3/17/05
#350The disintegration of Ellen - Day 4
Posted: 10/19/07 at 4:34pm
Has anyone bothered to post/look at this?
Rescue group in Iggy dispute suspended in ‘06
Mutts & Moms’ suspension is still in effect, so Ellen’s contract may be void
LOS ANGELES - As the controversy over Ellen’s dog adoption gone awry continues, Access Hollywood has learned that Mutts & Moms may have other business issues to contend with that could affect their position in the Iggy dispute.
According to the California Secretary of State’s Web site, the Mutts & Moms corporation has been suspended since December 2006, when they failed to file a “statement of information.”
Access Hollywood has verified the corporation is still suspended as of today.
The “statement of information” is a document that lists who their officers are. However, as soon as the form is submitted, the agency can revive their corporation.
As a result of the suspension, enforcing the contract with Ellen and Portia may be impossible for the agency, as both the original adoption of Iggy and the date the agency reclaimed possession of the pet happened after the suspension began.
Access Hollywood has placed a call to Mutts & Moms, as well as their attorney, for comment. No response was received at the time of publication.
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