Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
hahhaa... USA Up All Night!! loved it! but they were more broad in genre becaus they included those soft core porn type movies like Sexy Ski Patrol.. haha.. it was all about TNT's Monstervision hosted by that Billy Bob guy in the trailer park... i loved how he'd watch a movie and then show the death count inbetween commercials...
Rob Zombie... oh man.. like someome mentioned... his movies make me feel dirty and just full of hatred for life! lol.... great movies... i just need to watch some happy musical afterwards... haha...
oh and another good horror movie.. Monster Squad!!!! classic 80s movie... super awesome!!!
Monster Squad is one of the greatest movies EVER MADE.
I watch this at least once every few weeks ever since I was a kid. God, I love it!
spiderj - you have watched the original HALLOWEEN on tv one too many times. Rent it or buy the actual uncut film and you will be shocked with what you've been missing.
Laurie is far from a good girl. And pot and sex are the least of her issues. I'd go so far as to say Zombie's Halloween is MORE sympathetic to Laurie than either the original HALLOWEEN or the sequal. And she goes through A LOT more.
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I own the movie in 3 different special editions. Yes, she smoked a wee bit of pot that she couldn't stop coughing when she did. I disagree completely. I have no clue what you are talking about when you say "pot and sex are the least of her worries." She was the virginal heroin that was the staple of older horror movies. And I disagree about Zombie's Laurie being more sympathetic. I wanted to slap her a few times. Yes, she goes through a lot more of the "horror" aspect. But, by the time that came around, I really didn't care if she died. With Carpenter's Laurie (in the original) you had no clue why he went after her...you didn't find that out until the sequel (which, I don't like by the way).
"I have no clue what you are talking about when you say "pot and sex are the least of her worries."
Ever heard of Michael Meyers? Her brother who kills countless people in order to get to her and the whole point of his evil existence is essentially to do as such? Sure, that info wasn't made obvious until the sequal but it's foolish to pretend that info doesn't come part and pacel with the enterprise now (it does, and Zombie included it in his version pf 1 for this reason).
Compared to Michael Meyers, pot and sex are the least of her troubles. That still doesn't make her a good girl! And she REPEATEDLY inhales from the joint (even more if you have the extended scene from Carpenter's Extended TV cut) and no amount of lying about how much she coughs will change that! Everyone coughs when they smoke crappy commercial weed like she was smoking!
I can't believe people still use the term "good girl". Aren't the 50s over?
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Well, yeah. I mean she is not a saint, I'll give you that. But I just did not like the Zombie HALLOWEEN. He cared too much about blood and guts and language than the actual story. That's my opinion and no one is going to change that. But, that is my opinion and I'm glad people liked the new HALLOWEEN. Its just not for me
That's awesome and totally respectable, spiderj... and I'll admit I get really protective of Laurie! Everyone tries to say that she is the model for all these ditzes in horror movies ever since then and she is simply NOT. She is ANYTHING but that, so it irritates me when people say she is the "good girl" and all that comes along with it because she is actually pretty smart. After all, she's the only one to escape unscathed!
I can totally understand people hating Zombie's HALLOWEEN and if many DIDN'T then I think he would have failed as a REinventor of the story. But I know what you mean. This is one of only two or three remakes that I feel are equal to the original, so it really is the exception to the rule for me. But I see HALLOWEEN as a rip-off of Argento (it is.) so Zombie's re-invention doesn't bother me as much. Plus, Zombie IS the modern day Carpenter in many ways.
Anyway, if this SUSPIRIA remake ends up happenning I may actually cry because it will mean no one will seek out the original, which is a truly unique piece of art unlike any other.
The original HALLOWEEN is classic enough so any remake will be considered WITH it but with all these remakes of more unknown properties it is often the case that audiences ONLY know the inferior remake and that is dangerous and sad.
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That's why I will see the second one because he doesn't have to follow the Carpenter blue print. And she is FAAAAAAR from ditzy (Laurie). She is a smart, brave character and one of my faves. I LOOOOOVE in H20 when she finally faces her fear and faces her demons.
Swing Joined: 7/18/09
I LOVE horror movies. But can't stand this recent slew of torture porn/goregasm pics. Saw COULD have been something great, a wonderful psychological thriller, but it fell into its baser calling. and the sequels have been utter swill.
I enjoyed House of a 1000 Corpses but found The Devil's Rejects a little underwhelming. Haven't seen the new Halloween. I think Zombie's a pretty good filmmaker though.
I recently watched The Descent for the first time and really enjoyed that.
I haven't seen a horror flick in a theatre FOREVER though. I honestly think The Ruins was the last.
I so wanted to love The Ruins. But I felt like it ended rather abruptly. It was just getting good, and then suddenly it was over.
Maybe I was just expecting something as good as the book.
Swing Joined: 7/18/09
I enjoyed the movie, but didn't read the book.
When I was in HS I saw a movie called Ghost Story that scared the living crap outta me. But now I don't think it's all that scary.
Rosemary's Baby and the Exorcist were probably the scariest for me.
When I was little the one with Vincent Price where he owns a wax museum FREAKED me out. I think it was called The House of Wax?
Swing Joined: 7/18/09
The new House of Wax is worth watching just for a chance to see Paris Hilton die.
I was wondering if it was the same story!
"Anyway, if this SUSPIRIA remake ends up happenning I may actually cry because it will mean no one will seek out the original, which is a truly unique piece of art unlike any other."
Why would that happen? Interest in the Japanese horror movies increased significantly when remakes such as "The Ring" were introduced to the American market. I don't want to see a "Suspiria" remake any more than anyone else but it will probably generate more interest in Argento, particularly in the build-up for the new picture.
As for Zombie's "Halloween" vs. Carpenter's, well, I don't find too much in Zombie's that worked. Nothing against Zombie, I think "The Devil's Rejects" is a super slab of exploitation movie ("House of 1000 Corpses" was a campy mess, though, I thought,) but I found Carpenter's metaphorical Shape far more frightening and interesting than Zombie's cliche-laden and over-written white trash serial killer version. Carpenter understood the power of unanswered questions and what they contribute to suspense and horror. Zombie put out something that barely even functions as fan fiction and everything it added only reminded me of the true power of Carpenter's simple, abstract story.
I hope the new "Halloween 2" is able to get past the need for excessive exposition and get down to the business of Michael Meyers's unstoppable chase. And I look much more forward to the NEXT idea Rob Zombie has, in hopes that he'll deliver another "Devil's Rejects."
Broadway Star Joined: 3/20/08
I saw Silence of the Lambs for the first time today. I got chills any time Anthony Hopkins looked at the screen.
Other favorites include The Exorcist, Alien, and Jaws (although Jaws isn't really as scary today as it was when I was younger).
As someone who has read H2 and seen some footage from the film, I must say you will NOT be disappointed if you want a more abstract take on the concept introduced in the first film.
The Geisha Ghost alone is something totally unique in American horror up until this point. Zombie is obviously paying homage to Kurosawa (THRONE OF BLOOD and RAN) and Miike (IZO and GOZU) in this new character *::SPOILER::it is the reincarnation of Michael's mother ala Kabuki theatreSPOILER::*).
If the movie is half as good as the script it will far surpass the original sequel, if nothing else.
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Swing Joined: 7/18/09
Someone (i think tazber) mentioned The Host earlier. I have that in my netflix Watch Instantly list and I was just wondering, is it exceedingly gory/shocking like Audition? I can handle some gore, but if it starts getting really intense or realistic (like in the torture porn/goregasm flicks) I do get nauseous (something about a character that is a real person doing terrible things to another character that is a real person that I can't handle).
The Host? The Japanese monster movie? There's no gore in that at all. It's really not even a horror movie, more of a comedic riff on Asian monster movies. It's a good movie, though.
Swing Joined: 7/18/09
Ahh, ok, good. the description sounded interesting but I'm always a little weary of asian horror films because some of them are so intense.
I recently saw The Abandoned on cable. A really wonderful horror film, ghost story with a nice twist.
It concerns a woman who returns to her families estate in Russia and she meets her estranged twin brother. A really wonderful scary horror flick.
Carnival of Souls (directed by my dad's best friend, in my home town)
The Exorcist
The Omen
The Shining
The Bride of Frankenstein
The Other
Halloween
Dracula Has Risen From the Grave
Carrie
Gargoyles (TV)
Mark of the Vampire
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Blacula
Trilogy of Terror (TV - only for the last story)
Nosferatu
WAIT, best12, your father's best friend is the MASTER OF HORROR himself WES FREAKIN' CRAVEN?!
If so, PLEASE let us know!
He is the master of the genre, and with SCREAM re-invented it.
Or did you mean Herk Harvey? Too bad he never made another horror film - COS is pretty fantastic!
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Updated On: 7/31/09 at 08:46 PM
There's an obscure one called THE SENDER that came out in the early eighties that was pretty good. It seems to have been lost forever.
That's a great list bestbars. Scary!!
I just watched A Haunting in Connecticut....lame.
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