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Jimmcf
#0Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 2:52pm

I don't smoke, and can't stand it, but what is next? Fired for your weight? Who you sleep with?

Company Fires All Employees Who Smoke
Michigan Firm Won't Allow Smoking, Even On Employee's Own Time


LANSING, Mich. -- Four employees of a health care company have been fired for refusing to take a test to determine whether they smoke cigarettes.

Weyco Inc., a health benefits administrator based in Okemos, Mich., adopted a policy Jan. 1 that allows employees to be fired if they smoke, even if the smoking happens after business hours or at home.

Company founder Howard Weyers has said the anti-smoking rule was designed to shield the firm from high health care costs. "I don't want to pay for the results of smoking," he said.

The rule led one employee to quit before the policy was adopted. Four others were fired when they balked at the smoking test.

Chief Financial Officer Gary Climes estimated that 18 to 20 of the company's 200 employers were smokers when the policy was announced in 2003. Of those, as many as 14 quit smoking before the policy went into effect. The company offered them help to kick the habit.

"That is absolutely a victory," Climes said.

On the company's Web site, it states:

Weyco Inc. is a non-smoking company that strongly supports its employees in living healthy lifestyles

http://www.wral.com/news/4126577/detail.html


My mother always used to say, "The older you get, the better you get, unless you're a banana." - Rose Nyland
Updated On: 1/25/05 at 02:52 PM

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Rathnait62
#1re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 2:55pm

They're crazy - they're gonna get sued so hard.


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

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leomaxfrank
#2re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 3:36pm

wow. Fascism in companies - who'd a thunk it??


But I won't live alone in a house of regret.

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Jamie Hat
#3re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 3:54pm

Good. Maybe when all the smokers are broke and unemployed they won't be able to afford any more packs.

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Liam
#4re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:04pm

GOOD FOR THEM!

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robbiej
#5re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:12pm

Thus spake the prophet.

I have to say that I love the whole no smoking in bars thing in NYC. My clothes don't smell, I don't lose my voice after an hour and everything's just a tad more pleasant (and this from a reformed smoker).

But this is just a little bit ridiculous.


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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Jimmcf
#6re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:20pm

I also love the smoking ban here in NYC - but for an employer to dictate what you can and can't do in your own time is kind of freightening.


My mother always used to say, "The older you get, the better you get, unless you're a banana." - Rose Nyland

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rlbgbc
#7re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:21pm

I agree with robbiej -- the last time I was in Marie's Crisis, it was nice to not have to go through a cloud. It was strange, though -- even though there is no smoking, I could still smell it. I think the years and decades of smoking in there has seeped into the wood. But I liked the smoke-free environs, I must say.

And this from a sometimes smoker...

MargoChanning
#8re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:23pm

So, is it fine if the employees sit home every night drinking Jack Daniels, eating KFC and shooting up heroin -- or do they not test for those things?


"What a story........ everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end." -- Birdie [http://margochanning.broadwayworld.com/] "The Devil Be Hittin' Me" -- Whitney

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Mister Matt
#9re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:24pm

What's next? Home breathalizer tests? That's insane.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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Rathnait62
#10re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:26pm

*puts together Care package for Beav*


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

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Mister Matt
#11re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:27pm

I like to pick up a bucket of smack on the way home.


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

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robbiej
#12re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:27pm

I have NEVER worked at a place that tested for drugs.

If I did, I wouldn't have a job.

Oh...wait.

That's cause...er...I love poppy bagels...YEAH! Poppy bagels!


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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Rathnait62
#13re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:28pm

We have random drug testing where I work.


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

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robbiej
#14re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:30pm

Then how do you get away with it, Crackhead Connie?


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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rlbgbc
#15re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:32pm

We don't have random drug testing here at *insert company name*, so I'm safe. But Lord, if they start checking random internet usage, I'm sunk.

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Rathnait62
#16re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:33pm

Wouldn't you like to know?!


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#17re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:48pm

As a gay man who unfortunately smokes, should I start packing for the camps now?

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Rathnait62
#18re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:49pm

Are girls allowed in your gay state?


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#19re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:50pm

Well, Beav - to the extent we can be (since we have to have warm weather) we're already here! re: Fired for smoking

BwayTheatre11
#20re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:52pm

This is a little too far...


CCM '10!

#21re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:56pm

I thought lesbians kept U-Haul on retainer re: Fired for smoking

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Rathnait62
#22re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/25/05 at 4:56pm

Damn right we do, DGrant.


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

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Jamie Hat
#23re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/26/05 at 10:24am

The guys in the apartment below need to STOP smoking whatever it is... It doesn't smell as good as grass and it's even worse that cigarettes (can you imagine?). If I were the Landlord I wouldn't rent out to them smelly buggers. They can keep pets out, why not smokers?

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AbsolutKnight
#24re: Fired for smoking
Posted: 1/26/05 at 10:31am

I have a friend who isnt supposed to eat fast food / junk food becuase she works in a job that involves testing health issues.

I think if a company wants to be a "non-smoking" company, and doesn't want to employee people who smoke, that is there business, no matter how ridiculous it is.


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