Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
#0Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:16pm
http://tbs.com/
who else is disgusted by this commercial?
I am only disgusted that they show it that way and they think that if two guys hug or are excited to see the each other, they are gay.
what do you think?
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#1re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:21pm
I've always been disgusted by people who felt that Frodo and Sam were lovers. That is SO not how Tolkein wrote it.
Some people just can't comprehend a heterosexual friendship with love that runs that deep. Makes me sad.
"Shut up! It's been 29 years!!!" --the incomparable Patti LuPone in her MUCH DESERVED Tony acceptance speech for Gypsy.
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#2re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:24pmIt was obviously a joke, but I can see how people would be offended. It definitely wasn't PC.
#3re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:24pmPeople mistake Shamey and me for lovers all the damn time.
#4re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:26pmIt's because of all those pictures you keep leaking to the press.
#5re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:27pm
I don't know why they can't see the deep platonic love.
Does everything have to be about sex in this crazy world??
#6re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:28pmIt's just sad.
#7re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:28pmit annoys the hell out of me. glad I'm not the only one.
~Dirty Rotten Scoundrels~
~Curtains~
~A Tale of Two Cities ~
#8re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:28pmAs a recovering LOTR geek, this is one of my pet peeves.
"Shut up! It's been 29 years!!!" --the incomparable Patti LuPone in her MUCH DESERVED Tony acceptance speech for Gypsy.
Kitzy's Avatar du Jour: Kitzy as Little Red Ridinghood in her college's production of "Into the Woods"
#9re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:30pmYou're not supposed to be in this thread, Kitz. It's Step 4.
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#10re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:56pm
I think you guys might be taking it a little too seriously.
UTA: I just realized this whole thread is probably a joke, so disregard that. Sorry!
Updated On: 4/10/06 at 11:56 PM
#11re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:58pm
not as good as the joke from the oc, something like this, not sure of it's right, but as close as I could remember
Melissa to Summer "remember that movie about the two gay guys on the mountain?"
Summer "Lord of the rings?"
Melissa "yeah,..."
#12re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 8:20am
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#14re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:37amNow, don't take this as gospel, but I do recall reading an interview with Sean Astin where he reported that Ian McKellen pulled him aside and enlightened him as to the subtle gay undertones the Frodo/Sam relationship that had developed over the years. It was during the filming of "Fellowship," and it came up when Sam was to visit Frodo after the attack at Weathertop and Sam rushes to Frodo's bedside and holds his hand.
robbiej
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#15re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:42am
Wait...we ARE joking right?
People really aren't offended, are they?
#16re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:44am
I'm offended because, as high-profile hobbits, Frodo and Sam could have done so much for the homosexual hobbit community if they'd just come out.
I mean, given how the Dark Forces of Mordor waged such a smear campaign against Frodo's Bachelor uncle, Bilbo, and the possible incestuous relationship between Frodo and Bilbo...well, you'd think they would have realized the important ramifications in coming out.
#17re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:45amThe hobbits?! Gosh, is nothing sacred anymore?
robbiej
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#18re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:48am
What?
Hobbits don't have sex? Where do little Hobbits come from then? The Hobbit Stork...a creature much like the stork we as humans know and love...but smaller.
#19re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:49am
Sure they do. :)
I was kidding, mostly. I'm not really offended. It's just weird when like, widely beloved characters are suddenly dubbed gay just 'cause they're guys and they hang out and if that (probably) was not the writer's intention.
#20re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:51am
I think you'd be hard-pressed NOT to see the sexual undertones in a LOT of Frodo and Sam's relationship but Tolkien himself didn't intend it to be anything but an example of the batman relationship from the British army.
But still, it's kind of homoerotic in a lot of places.
#21re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:53amIn the movie, I agree that it's obvious where people draw that implication from -- they're a bit effeminate. But in the book? It's been a long time since I read LOTR (and admittedly only the first one), but I didn't sense that.
robbiej
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#22re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:53amThat's the thing...it's not such a new theory. It existed long before the movies were ever made.
#23re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:54am
Maybe I just had a pure mind when I read the book. 
#24re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers
Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:55am
Really, Emcee? I'm reading Fellowship right now (it's a tradition that I read the Hobbit through Return of the King every year or so).
Here's a passage I JUST read last night:
"At that moment there was a knock on the door, and Sam came in. He ran to Frodo and took his left hand, awkwardly and shyly. He stroked it gently and then he blushed and turned hastily away."
Nothing? Not a thing just a trifle...off...about that to you?
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