Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

#1

Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:16pm

http://tbs.com/

who else is disgusted by this commercial?

I am only disgusted that they show it that way and they think that if two guys hug or are excited to see the each other, they are gay.

what do you think?

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#2

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:21pm

I've always been disgusted by people who felt that Frodo and Sam were lovers. That is SO not how Tolkein wrote it.

Some people just can't comprehend a heterosexual friendship with love that runs that deep. Makes me sad.

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#3

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:24pm

It was obviously a joke, but I can see how people would be offended. It definitely wasn't PC.

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#4

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:24pm

People mistake Shamey and me for lovers all the damn time.

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#5

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:26pm

It's because of all those pictures you keep leaking to the press.

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#6

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:27pm

I don't know why they can't see the deep platonic love.

Does everything have to be about sex in this crazy world??

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#7

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:28pm

It's just sad.

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Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be enbered with your old nonsense. ~ Emerson

#8

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:28pm

it annoys the hell out of me. glad I'm not the only one.

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<--- the set of A Midsummer Night's Dream that I was assistant stage manager for during the 2007 season at the STNJ outdoor stage.

-Dre- You must remember all the same that at the crux of every game is knowing when it's time to leave the table... And it's important to be artful in your exit. No turning back, you must accept the con is done... It was a ball, it was a blast. And it's a shame it couldn't last. But every chapter has to end, you must agree.
~Dirty Rotten Scoundrels~
There's a special kind of people known as show people. We live in a world full of dreams. Sometimes we're not too certain what's false and what's real. But we're seldom in doubt about what we feel.
~Curtains~
It is a far, far better thing I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest I go to, than I have ever known.
~A Tale of Two Cities ~

#9

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:28pm

As a recovering LOTR geek, this is one of my pet peeves.

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"Shut up! It's been 29 years!!!" --the incomparable Patti LuPone in her MUCH DESERVED Tony acceptance speech for Gypsy.

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#10

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:30pm

You're not supposed to be in this thread, Kitz. It's Step 4.

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#11

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:56pm

I think you guys might be taking it a little too seriously.

UTA: I just realized this whole thread is probably a joke, so disregard that. Sorry!

Updated On: 4/10/06 at 11:56 PM

#12

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/10/06 at 11:58pm

not as good as the joke from the oc, something like this, not sure of it's right, but as close as I could remember

Melissa to Summer "remember that movie about the two gay guys on the mountain?"

Summer "Lord of the rings?"

Melissa "yeah,..."

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#13

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 8:20am

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#14

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 8:28am

I love you FrodO, I mean RobbO.

#15

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:37am

Now, don't take this as gospel, but I do recall reading an interview with Sean Astin where he reported that Ian McKellen pulled him aside and enlightened him as to the subtle gay undertones the Frodo/Sam relationship that had developed over the years. It was during the filming of "Fellowship," and it came up when Sam was to visit Frodo after the attack at Weathertop and Sam rushes to Frodo's bedside and holds his hand.

#16

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:42am

Wait...we ARE joking right?

People really aren't offended, are they?

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#17

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:44am

I'm offended because, as high-profile hobbits, Frodo and Sam could have done so much for the homosexual hobbit community if they'd just come out.
I mean, given how the Dark Forces of Mordor waged such a smear campaign against Frodo's Bachelor uncle, Bilbo, and the possible incestuous relationship between Frodo and Bilbo...well, you'd think they would have realized the important ramifications in coming out.

#18

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:45am

The hobbits?! Gosh, is nothing sacred anymore?

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#19

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:48am

What?

Hobbits don't have sex? Where do little Hobbits come from then? The Hobbit Stork...a creature much like the stork we as humans know and love...but smaller.

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#20

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:49am

Sure they do. :)

I was kidding, mostly. I'm not really offended. It's just weird when like, widely beloved characters are suddenly dubbed gay just 'cause they're guys and they hang out and if that (probably) was not the writer's intention.

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A work of art is an invitation to love.

Updated On: 4/11/06 at 11:49 AM

#21

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:51am

I think you'd be hard-pressed NOT to see the sexual undertones in a LOT of Frodo and Sam's relationship but Tolkien himself didn't intend it to be anything but an example of the batman relationship from the British army.
But still, it's kind of homoerotic in a lot of places.

#22

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:53am

In the movie, I agree that it's obvious where people draw that implication from -- they're a bit effeminate. But in the book? It's been a long time since I read LOTR (and admittedly only the first one), but I didn't sense that.

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A work of art is an invitation to love.

#23

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:53am

That's the thing...it's not such a new theory. It existed long before the movies were ever made.

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#24

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:54am

Maybe I just had a pure mind when I read the book.

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#25

re: Frodo and Sam: Secret Lovers

Posted: 4/11/06 at 11:55am

Really, Emcee? I'm reading Fellowship right now (it's a tradition that I read the Hobbit through Return of the King every year or so).
Here's a passage I JUST read last night:

"At that moment there was a knock on the door, and Sam came in. He ran to Frodo and took his left hand, awkwardly and shyly. He stroked it gently and then he blushed and turned hastily away."

Nothing? Not a thing just a trifle...off...about that to you?