Guilty or Not?
Guilty or Not?
#0Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:25pm
I'm afraid that I'm opening up a giant can of worms here, but I'm curious as to what you all think. Based on everything we've heard so far (including Corey Feldman on 20/20 right now,) does your gut instinct tell you that Michael Jackson is guilty of child molestation, or absolutely not-guilty? This has nothing to do with whether you're a Michael fan or not, and please don't turn this into yet another racial debate - just according to what facts we know, what do you think?
I would say he's guilty.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#3re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:29pm
What the hell do we know? We only know what the media tells us, and we know how reliable THEY are! Plus - what does the media NOT know. What have the 'powers that be' not yet released?
Fact is, I don't think we'll ever know. If he did it - he's a bastard and should go to jail for life. Let his cellmates smack the noses off his face.
If he didn't do it - shame on the media. Shame on the parents.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#4re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:29pmoh and btw if your tring to turn it on now the MJ thing is over
#5re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:31pmI think there's just too much there to deny it, and I'm certain he'll be found guilty. There's too much evidence against him for him to possibly back his story up. And it's not as if he's been accused once...it seems like as soon as one accusation drifts away, he's back in the news again with another one. It's time to stop it. If Martha can go to jail for something so frivelous, there's no doubt that the same will happen to Michael.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
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Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:35pmList all of the solid evidence against Michael Jackson, munk (or any one else).
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#8re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:39pm
Well, she did do something wrong, but I agree - she shouldn't be in jail.
CapnHook: Don't take this thing so personally. I said Guilty or Not, not "please critique this post." I specifically stated BASED ON THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE SEEN - meaning, obviously, unless any of us are tight with MJ himself all we know is what the media tells us. So maybe I should rephrase: ACCORDING TO WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE MEDIA (and past "Friend," Corey Feldman,) WHAT DO YOU THINK?
There's no need for a debate about this.
If he didn't do it, shame on the media? They're doing their job. So you're saying that if they cover a court case where the defendant turns out not guilty, then the media should apologize and be shamed? That's logical. There's no point in arguing this and I'm not going to list every ounce of evidence that's ever been released against Michael Jackson - that's pointless - but my own personal opinion is that he is guilty. That's all I asked - personal opinion.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#9re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:43pm
Don't get me wrong - I am not debating. I seriously wish to know the evidence against MJ.
However - about the media: yes, they are doing their job. But the job is unethical, evil, and shameful. Whether they report something positive or negative - the reasons behind it are cruel.
Money. What stories will get ratings? What will cause controversy? What will put us in favor with the public?
The media doesn't give a CRAP about anything.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#10re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:45pmLet me also add that it doesn't surprise me. It saddens me. It won't change. But it doesn't surprise me. It's expected.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#11re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 10:53pm
Two years ago, I would have said that the man is not capable of comprehending what sex is...
Now, i think he's EXRTREMELY guilty...
and not just cuz of Feldman either.
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#13re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 11:01pm
I do remember that. Everyone does.
But I don't think that was anything malicious at all.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#14re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 11:09pmNot malicious - but perhaps more evidence that he lives in some bizarro world and should not be allowed to keep his children. Those same children whom he forces to wear masks whenever they're in public. Oh yeah - they're gonna turn out normal.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Updated On: 2/12/05 at 11:09 PM
#15re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 11:46pmExactly. Anyone who makes their children wear masks should not have children. I'm not doubting that he loves them with all this heart, but his mental stability obviously needs to come into question.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#16re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 11:50pm
I'd have to say that he's guilty.
and i LOVE martha. Oh god bless her little home cooked meals!
awkward.
"I think it was the Korean tour or something. They were all frickin' asian!" -Zoran912
#17re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/11/05 at 11:56pm
Guilty...all the way.
But I think somehow he'll get out of it, b/c he's a celebrity.
Was that a fat joke?
#18re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/12/05 at 12:11amI don't think there's any way he'll get away this time...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#19re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/12/05 at 12:21amOh no, munk? Two words: O. J. That was a seemingly insurmountable mountain of evidence. I don't trust the justice system.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#20re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/12/05 at 12:21am
munk, hows it goin tonight? I saw Breakfast @ Tiff's at the blockbuster tonight. I was about to get it just for you! 
awkward.
"I think it was the Korean tour or something. They were all frickin' asian!" -Zoran912
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#21re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/12/05 at 12:28amFrom what we've been shown, it doesn't look good for MJ. My gut says he is guilty.
#22re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/12/05 at 12:34amJwei - GET IT - it's amazing.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
#23re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/12/05 at 12:35am
of course it is, munkie (haha get it?), b/c you're in it! 
awkward.
"I think it was the Korean tour or something. They were all frickin' asian!" -Zoran912
#24re: Guilty or Not?
Posted: 2/12/05 at 12:39amCome over and watch it with me. I'll give you an autograph...
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
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