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#251

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You created a fictional persona for me (based on a real life person who is not me), so that's where you should start if you want to talk terrifying.
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#253

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I've got a terrific life, thanks. It's a pretty slippery slope to slide down when a person on a message board is criticizing another person for being on a message board. Especially when the critic spent so long dropping details he thought reflected the life of the person he's criticizing.

What DID you hope to accomplish by that, Miss Marple? You've never said.
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#254

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"they are using their BASTARDIZATION of Islam as the catalyst or the justification..."

But they are not.

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
and strike off every fingertip of them."
"Allah" (Qur'an 8:12)

"Fight everyone in the way of Allah and
kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)

#255

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If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people.

--Deuteronomy 13:6-9


If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods you have not known), then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock.

--Deuteronomy 13:12-15


Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.

--1 Samuel 18:27


Whoever is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives ravished.

--Isaiah 13:15-16
#256

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Great!

Now show me the Christian country that is putting people to death for worshiping another god. Show me the Christian country where children are being killed and women are being "ravished"; not by the occasional Christian person or even the occasional Christian group, but by the government of that state, with that state operating under "Christian law".

Updated On: 9/26/14 at 05:07 PM

#258

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Now show me the Christian country that is putting people to death for worshiping another god. Show me the Christian country where children are being killed and women are being "ravished"; not by the occasional Christian person or even the occasional Christian group, but by the government of that state, with that state operating under "Christian law".

lol! what point are you trying to make here? christians can disobey the bible and still call themselves christians? that must be a nice cafeteria to eat at. hypocrisy seems to go into all the dishes. you only seem to be reinforcing the point that the more ppl ignore the holy books, the more civilization! good!

meanwhile, let's review how your religion behaved before it was defanged by secularism. john calvin is one of the leading theologians for protestantism. what else was he known for? oh yes, burning michael servetus at the stake. what was that all about? servetus was probably some serial rapist or murderer. or maybe he took it up the ass from another dude. no wait. he was a christian--because this is the other great thing about christians, see how they love each other so much--who thought the teachings of the trinity confused jews and muslims. he and calvin quarreled, forcing the former into hiding until the latter got him into custody. servetus begged for his life. calvin coldly said he should try to seek forgiveness from god. they tied a book of his teachings to servetus while they lit him up. he was heard to pray, "have pity on me jesus thou son of the eternal god." one of the "loving" priests who was present remarked that if he had moved the adjective, "have pity on me jesus thou eternal son of god," he might have been saved. a perfect example of persecution and murder over a nonsensical point, and a bloody example that islam has plagiarized to grisly effect.

oh, i can hear it already. john calvin wasn't a real christian! whoever knew! well, when we invent a time machine, mikey, you can go back and tell him that. be sure to dress in something fireproof.

your posts reinforce why it is futile to try to play nice with religion. your words drip with the idea that gays should be grateful that "loving" christians like yourself "tolerate" us more than islam does, while completely failing to see that this is the same "tolerance" that islam foists on other "peoples of the book" in the countries where they run the show. the hypocrisy is stunning, but not surprising. if christians "tolerate" gays now, it is only because it has been forced to by humanism and secularism or face embarrassment worldwide.



Updated On: 9/27/14 at 03:24 AM

#260

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Meanwhile, the Oklahoma police issued this statement about the beheading in Oklahoma:

"After conducting interviews with Nolen's co-workers, information was obtained that he recently started trying to convert several employees to the Muslim religion. Due to the manner of death and the initial statements of co-workers and other initial information, the Moore Police Department requested the assistance of the FBI in conducting a background investigation on Nolan."

And the Daily Beast confronts the reality of it.




DAILY BEAST: The Muslim Convert Behind America’s First Workplace Beheading
#261

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"lol! what point are you trying to make here? christians can disobey the bible and still call themselves christians? that must be a nice cafeteria to eat at. hypocrisy seems to go into all the dishes. you only seem to be reinforcing the point that the more ppl ignore the holy books, the more civilization! good!"

Whey the deflection? You write an incredibly long post that basically says nothing. I understand it must be frustrating to not be able to reply to the substance of my point, but I will ask again, What Christian country is beheading non-believers, ravishing women and killing children?

I await the response to my question.
#262

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^^^^

why? you haven't answered the point about how jesus said he came not to bring peace, after you claimed he was peace loving. neither have you answered the point that jesus introduced the evil idea of hell into monotheism, which islam plagiarized and which has literally given millions of children nightmares. and you repeatedly dodge the point that, in fact, christianity did do those things, as john calvin did, but it has long been defanged by secularism in the west. in rwanda, all the catholic priests and nuns are standing trial for inciting genocide.
#263

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ISIS = Nazis.

I expect a new Indiana Jones movie based entirely on this premise.
#264

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"why? you haven't answered the point about how Jesus said he came not to bring peace, after you claimed he was peace loving."

You're deflecting again because you cannot break my argument.
I understand your frustration.

So you are arguing that the quote proves that Jesus was NOT a peace-loving man? SERIOUSLY???? Jesus was speaking in that quote about the division in families that his followers were experiencing. In his day he was a very controversial figure (obviously) and those who followed him were often ostracized by their families. Look at the whole quote in context and you will see what he meant.

Almost all religions have some version of hell. Hell is not evil, it is a place for evil people so it is actually a good thing.

But you DEFLECT repeatedly from the point. Are you going to argue that Jesus was not a peaceful man and Muhammad was?? I like for you to make that argument.
Go ahead.
#265

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"Hell is not evil, it is a place for evil people so it is actually a good thing."

So basically you believe things that are just as stupid as any other religious fundamentalist.
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#266

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"So basically you believe things that are just as stupid as any other religious fundamentalist"

More deflecting. I am saying that Jesus Christ was a man of peace and Muhammad was a man of violence. This is not just what I believe, it is a fact that I can prove.
If there is someone out there who can prove otherwise please step forward and save me from the deflectors who keep changing the subject.


Updated On: 9/27/14 at 05:31 PM

#267

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"This is not just what I believe, it is a fact that I can prove."

People living in the real world have very different definitions of "fact" and "prove". Maybe you should go hang out in the Creation Museum to find somebody who actually wants to engage with you.
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#268

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So, here in LA, many of us have a dream of eventually having the Purple Line (hey-ohh!) subway extend all the way to the beach. The proposed extension plans call for the line to run directly under Beverly Hills High School. The entitled NIMBYs in Beverly Hills have been desperately trying to throw every proverbial wrench into this one since it was announced. Now, they've got a new excuse: they're claiming that having a subway line run through Beverly Hills will jeopardize the community because ISIS might set off a bomb there. Forget that it will be DECADES before this line extension would be completed. This is an imminent threat that must be dealt with. Won't someone think of the entitled, wealthy children??
#269

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Well, as far as we know Jesus was a man of peace. But there ARE those unknown years of Jesus between the ages of 12 and 30...

And there ARE a series of unsolved murders in India and Britain and Gaul.

I'm not accusin' Jesus of bein' no teenage HATCHET murderer or nothin'.

I'm just SAYIN'...

He has no alibi.


Updated On: 9/27/14 at 06:00 PM

#270

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You're deflecting again because you cannot break my argument.
I understand your frustration.


lol! what deflecting? hell is a place for evil people so that makes it good? go read the accounts written by the little catholic girl who was upset that her sweet uncle was going there because he was not catholic, which has been the teachings of the western orthodox for centuries! if that's not contemporary enough for you, i've met a catholic in my office, a grown man, who broke into tears because he thinks it's true that he's going to burn in eternity forever because he's had relations with another man.

you're too ez. you still haven't answered the point that "christian" countries do not do any of those things because of secularism.

Updated On: 9/27/14 at 06:14 PM

#271

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Obviously all this deflecting can only lead a person to one conclusion, which is that you have no answer to my question because there are no Christian countries that engage in such atrocities.
Thank you for helping me to prove my point.
#272

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i have already answered your question repeatedly; one can't help it if your reading comprehension needs work. you're the one who has not provided sufficient answers. you act like self-proclaiming victory is difficult. but then, if i was part of a denomination that has lied to people for centuries, heaping misery, ignorance, and shame everywhere, i would be evasive too.



Updated On: 9/27/14 at 08:23 PM

#273

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mikey, Christianity and Islam are at different stages in their evolution, which is not surprising since Islam is six centuries younger than Christianity.

Christian countries shed considerable bloodshed until the death toll grew so great that secularism became a better option. But the religion had its day when it was every bit as violent as Islam.

And what will Islam be six centuries from now? Only time will tell, but your "inherency" argument is supported only by taking each religion at a different point in its development.

And even now, Christian nations shed plenty of blood. That they don't do so OFFICIALLY in the name of Christ doesn't prove they are any less eager to slaughter Arabs. By my count, we've repaid 9/11 deaths by something like 40 to 1. And it wasn't that long ago we were in a decades-long cold war with the "godless" Communists.

Updated On: 9/27/14 at 10:50 PM

#274

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It's futile. It's always been futile. He's another one who projects exactly what he's doing and uses that as an excuse to never admit he's wrong. cf LH.

Then mikey disappears, probably to a mental hospital, and he isn't heard from for about a year until he's deemed fit to return to society.
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#275

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SERIOUS PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION:

Where do trolls go--and what do trolls do--when they're not trolling?

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