Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (SPOILER THREAD) — Page 13

I just finished the book and have not looked all the way through this tread.
I totally agree with the last few posts about Snape, it was yodamarie who first brought up this Snape could have been following Dumbledore's orders idea and I amd still very much in favor of it. There has been so much invested in Snape over the books and DD must have some reason for trusting him, other than what Harry thinks, harry is almost always wrong.
I think just as DD told harry to do "whatever it takes" he did the same with Snape, I remember his original reluctance to make the unbreakable vow once Narcissa asked him to finish the job, but he did it because that was what DD ordered him to do. I'm also in total agreement on his pleading with Snape being that he go ahead and kill him. DD never struck me as one to plead FOR his own life.
Harry being the Horocrux I have yet to wrap my mind around, but i can see the possibility, although somehow I still see Harry surviving.

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eh. I still can't grasp Harry being killed or even pretending that he was killed. I think that Harry (with the help of Snape) will kill Voldemort and the Ministry of Magic will come up with a story so Harry won't be bombarded by adoring wizards and witches. And I agree that she better not just have Harry, Ron, and Hermoine go off on an adventure together.........Neville is one of my favorite characters so he better be in the next book (along with Hagrid) or I will not be a happy camper. I think it is really interesting about the "It could have been Neville" plot. I hope he some how fits into the story about how Voldemort goes down. That would rock!! And I hope Hermoine and Ron have one GOOD kiss in the last book. All this waiting is torture.

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I think the actor who played Neville has been peeing his pants ever since Neville started getting more and more importance...

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Finished my second read of the book. Wooh.

1st I noticed a LOT of parallels between Harry and Snape. A LOT. I can't believe that Snape is just evil. He's too complicated and developed. Also, he ALWAYS protects Harry. Every book, every time, he protects Harry. When the siblings Crucio (yes?) Harry as he is trying to duel with Snape, Snape STOPS THEM immediatly and is very pissed off. And I am just beginning to realize something that I think is HUGE.

Voldemort told Lily she didn't have to die. He was honestly saying that. He wouldn't have killed Lily if she didn't force him to by protecting Harry. WHY? Maybe because Snape told Voldemort and asked only that Lily be spared. Get rid of the husband and kid, leave her open for Snape to sweep in. Mental, I know, but Snape (I think) loved her so much that he would do anything to get her. But when she was killed...he went back to Dumbledore.

JK is very careful when she talks about Lily. And about Snape.

Also I am now POSITIVE that Dumbledore and Snape had a plan and that Dumbledore was asking Snape to kill him, not save him.

2nd something cute, in the first potions class both Harry and Hermione smell something of their beloved (Hermione stops saying what she smells from the love potion and blushes...suggesting she smells something Ron-ish, and Harry smells the rose smell of Ginny, tho he doesn't recognize it then).

3rd I do think it will be Malfoy who teaches at Hogwarts after everything is done. Him or Hermione...or Neville. Hmm. Got a couple good prospects for that one.

4th If Harry is a horcruxe (sp?), and I'm still not sure if he is, then I think Snape will destroy that part of Voldemorts soul, seeming to be attacking Harry, and get killed because of it. Maybe. And then he reveals his love for Lily. Maybe. Hmm.

That's all I can think of at this point.

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While the liquid-as-Horcrux theory is interesting, that is not possible because "RAB" already took away the horcrux.

When I first started reading about horcruxes, my brain flashed back to the mirror that Sirius gave Harry in OoTP. Could that be one?

I never would have guessed Snape as the HBP. I always assumed he was a full-blood.

I still believe that Snape is a good guy. He'll prove himself in book 7.

Anyone see Luna and Neville hooking up?

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I agree... they seem to be on the same page. Definitely both weird in their own senses, but Neville should get some action too! I like that idea, but I want to know what happens with Lupin and Tonks. Is that why she was suddenly stressed all the time? I would like to think that she was also depressed because of Sirius.

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I agree with you defyinggravity. I also think that like Tonks and Lupin Ginny will tell Harry to get over it and they will stay together.

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Really? I was. I haven't seen any indications at all that she's evil- a bit of a snob, but never actually bad. What in her behavior makes you think she's a mole?

I just read this ENTIRE THREAD.

Even though I was at B&N at midnight with my HP wristband to get the book, this was the first book of the 6 that I didn't finish right away--I've been swamped and ( *blasphemes* ) didn't finish until Monday night!!

That said.....I am SO GLAD to have read all of these theories. I knew there had to be more to it than just "Oh, Snape really IS evil after all" after all that.

Keep the theories coming!!

My first thought when reading Dumbledore's death, was that there was some sort of worst-case scenario arranged between Dumbledore and Snape that was ultimately played out. Snape had plenty of opportunities to kill Dumbledore, so why did it have to be in the moment when Draco was the one who had to do it? The Unbreakable Vow was about protecting Draco, not performing his duties, which in this case, would not have necessarily protected Draco from Voldermort. Snape only had to get Draco out of there. There was something more deliberate and ceremonious in Dumbledore's death. Also, I don't think Dumbledore's trust in Snape was explicitly explained. There was a somewhat wishy-washy vague answer, but I believe it goes deeper than that. I really don't think Dumbledore was so naive to have Snape working for Voldermort under his nose for so many years. Nor do I think any of the characters would believe Dumbledore is that stupid.

I think all this joy over the Lupin/Tonks thing is kind of funny. I mean, Tonks has been such a peripheral character, I'm not sure why anyone would get excited about her being in a relationship.

Personally, I wanted to see Harry and Hermione together, even though I knew it would never happen. They just seem a better match than Ron and Hermione. I mean, I could see H/H as parents together. It just makes more sense to me. But I like Ginny, too. She's a delightful character.

I had no idea Snape would be the Half-Blood Prince. I did not see that coming at all.

I am curious how they will film the movie of this one considering the quite bloody and violent scenes (especially with Harry and Malfoy). The movies have been more kid-friendly than the books, so I wonder if it will be less bloody. That part really freaked me out when I read it.

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Updated On: 8/9/05 at 06:03 PM