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[Weez]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 12:52pm

Let's see...

Option 1: Apple makes iPods that are capable of being turned up to obscene volumes. People turn their iPods up to obscene volumes and go deaf. They promptly sue Apple. Apple suffer because they were too stupid to make iPods safe in the first place, and iPod users suffer because they were too stupid to keep their iPods at a sensible volume.

Option 2: Apple makes iPods so it's impossible to get them to terrifically dangerous levels. Some people grimble and grumble about how "OMG MY HUMAN RIGHTS TO FREEDOM OF DEAFNESS ARE BEING INFRINGED!" but at the end of the day, Apple goes home happy through not causing anyone any damage, and the iPod users can listen to music for the rest of their lives because their ears still work.

People are inherently stupid. Because of these stupid, I'd really rather have a little reasonable restriction and see option 2 than watch the world go crazy with the "well HE shouldn't have turned it up so loud!" "well HE shouldn't have made the iPod able to be so loud!" litigation that would sure as s*** follow option 1.

If you DESPERATELY want to go deaf, go buy an MP3 player from a company that doesn't care. Or go to a ton of gigs and stand next to the speakers. Or stalk construction companies and get as close to the pneumatic drills as you can. It's your right to destroy your hearing if you so desperately choose. Just as it's Apple's right to make their products safe for consumption by idiots.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 12:56pm

"All of Obama's ideas are socialism."

And what is McSame's big idea of the government buying up mortgages if not socialism?

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:00pm

My, my, my! Who needs meltdowns when we have this?

[tazber]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:01pm

What a reasonable conclusion you have drawn from that link Goth.

It's educated and supported by compelling facts taken from the source.
Why, this might just make me vote for McCain. Thanks for bringing this potential violation of my ipod rights to my attention.

[Calvin]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:04pm

Perhaps McCain should use "Pump Up the Volume" as his new campaign theme song?

MARRS probably wouldn't mind, unlike those commies from Heart.

And Palin could always enter on the "MARRS....needs....women" line. Updated On: 10/13/08 at 01:04 PM

[Gothampc]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:07pm

Weez,

Option 3: Put a warning label on the IPOD, like they do cigarettes which are much more harmful, and let people have control over their own bodies.

[madbrian]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:14pm

Why don't Bush, Cheney, McCain, and Palin have such warning labels?

[tazber]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:19pm

lol

[Pippin]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:23pm

Goth's idea is good, but really, do people need to be told that listening to music at a high volume for an extended period of time is going to damage thier hearing? They should know that.

and "high" volume is subjective. loud to me might me inaudible to you. and where would the warning go? on the actual ipod? on the box? a permanent display on the screen?

Updated On: 10/13/08 at 01:23 PM

[Gothampc]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:32pm

Pippin, the point being that a warning is on cigarettes, on diet soda, on lots of things, but nobody actually tells the company to modify their product. So why should Apple have to do it?

[jasonf]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:38pm

I'm so confused: are you arguing for the right to hurt yourself?

Just think, if the same principle was applied to cigarettes, maybe the cancer sticks would be a thing of the past. I fail to see the bad here.

[artscallion]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:52pm

It's not a black and white world, Goth. cigarettes are not ipods. It's not "regulation on everything" or "regulation on nothing." You have to look at each situation individually.

A major portion of ipod users are children. And I know, having been one, children don't really have the maturity to see or care about long term consequences, like hearing loss. So, as adults, it's our job to make the things children use safe, in spite of the irresponsible way they might use them.

Cigarettes, on the other hand, are only allowed to be used by adults who can make such informed decisions on their own. That's comparable to controlling volume on an ipod. Making them unavailable to children is the same as making dangerous volume levels unavailable on ipods. Labels help protect adults and idiots and serve as a liability protection for the tobacco companies.

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[NGD2225]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 1:53pm

My Grandfather seems to think that liberals want to control people's live & that conservatives they want to just let you live your life without interference from the Gov't. Even though they want to tell a woman that they can't have an abortion. I would have called him on it, but he has quite the temper which would cause him to go white with rage.

[Craig]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 2:01pm

"Option 3: Put a warning label on the IPOD, like they do cigarettes which are much more harmful, and let people have control over their own bodies. "

Faulty logic as I believe that cigarettes have limits on the amount of toxins they can throw into their product. They ARE regulated.

So.. bad example there Goth, sorry...

But using your "bad" example, Apple could put a warning label on AND they can limit their volume level.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 2:04pm

Guys, back off! Can't you see the point that Goth is trying to make?

He wants less government interference in the lives of Americans. He obviously believes in a woman's right to choose, that sodomy laws are inherently wrong, and that marriage should be available to all citizens.

What's everyone's problem here?

[artscallion]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 2:52pm

You have a point, Reg. I guess it is a fair trade off. I'd gladly suffer a few more deaf children if only I could marry my "friend". We can always store them out of sight in the sanitorium like they did with W's forgotten half Swedish deaf sister, Hiersa. That is until she married her Alaskan orderly, Joe Forya.

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[Mister Matt]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 3:51pm

Yeah, deregulation sucks. While we're at it, we should abolish all recalls on dangerous and defective products. If you have a car that is prone to killing its drivers due to parts or a flaw in its design, why should the manufacturer be forced to alter their product? They should only have to add a disclaimer somewhere in the owner's manual. They should be able to build vehicles any way they want and let the consumers decide if they want to have a greatler likelihood of death. But don't let them have abortions. That's totally different. Regulation based on religion is perfectly acceptable as long as it's the right religion, of which there is obviously only one. The Constitution allows everyone the freedom to practice any religion they choose, but it doesn't say we have to respect anything that's not Christian, by which I mean Baptist, of course. Them others aren't really Christians. And by Baptist, I mean the only interpretation of the Bible to be followed, which will be determined by the leader of the church my friends told me to attend. If you don't agree with me, then you are an instrument of Satan and going to Hell. End of discussion.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:02pm

Goth, don't leave me hanging!

Please tell these people I'm interpreting you correctly, so they don't think you're just trying to score some idiotic anti-Dem point by drawing a connection to something that is totally unrealated to anything.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:15pm

i see the logic line in this beaming like paul bunyan's neon swizzle stick. apples makes you go deaf. ipods are people made from seeds. democrats are the devil collectively.

the fact that you people question this makes the baby jesus weep.

[Pippin]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:27pm

I think you mean the baby Barack Weep.

[JohnBoy2]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:41pm

New Clothing Line - Baby Baracks

[blueroses]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:49pm

Obama was a beautiful baby.





So was McCain.

[Pippin]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:50pm

lmao!

[Calvin]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:52pm

I thought that clothing line was called "bad Photoshop jobs."

[StockardFan]

Posted: 10/13/08 at 4:56pm

"I thought that clothing line was called "bad Photoshop jobs."

You took the words RIGHT out of my mouth, Calvin!

LOL!