Hilary Clinton

Her abortion comments were QUITE surprising...but the abortion issue seems to be moving a lot of dems center...even Howard Dean says that he wants to be able to attract the pro-life crowd.

But yeah, Hillary in 2008 would just be a MESS. Chaos will ensue.

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And she's not trying to ban GTA--she's trying to keep it away from children. And, this loud mouthed liberal agrees with her.

I think she's brilliant. I can't wait for the showdown of the century!

(But there were 92 years to go!) lol

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I think our government should have a very moderate stance on polarizing issues. I will say it's not the government's place to be so regulatory on these issues. If you're a parent and you let a pre-teen child play a game called GRAND THEFT AUTO, something might be wrong with you. My parents gave me Pac-Man.
It might explain why I'm gay and not currently hijacking cars, but there you go.

As for abortion, again, I think it's an issue which should be approached with moderation by our government. Control, but not complete restriction.

Oh, Lildogs, if you only knew how much this issue mattered to, say, stupid people like the ones with whom I was raised. They really believe this means their senators and so forth care about them.

I had to read you a few times, bwaysinger, but I got you.

And jrb, you misunderstood my jazz/Elvis analogy: it's not the banning of music I was trying to point out, but the BLAMING of music, movies, tv, the internet for the ills of society and the effects on the "kids"...which I believe is the reason. Otherwise, why all the fuss?

It's a small way for her to get on some kind of "family values" perch that the Repubs have staked out for themselves. It's a very small way to gain some consevative support without alienating any of her Hollywood friends she will no doubt need in a campaign.

I just think she should use the media attention she's getting from this and use it for something more worthwhile, like a matter of life and death for example.

Oh, I think she can win, and these days it looks better and better. I have A TON of respect and admiration for both Clintons and I think what she's doing is very smart politically, but I can't help but feel a little stab at seeing someone I know to be highly intelligent and capable taking something as unimportant as this. I guess she learned her lesson with the health care debacle under her hubby.

I work for a large video game retailer , and i have to say i'm in full agreement with her GTA is NOT A GAME FOR KIDS you will be shocked at the number of parents that still buy this game for kids, well they did we pulled it from our shelves

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it might surprise some around here the respect i have for hil, but i do. she's a brilliant person, has done a bang up job as a senator (even if i disagree with her almost all the time), and more than anyone else in the democratic party has positioned herself on the right (no pun intended) side of issues important to the american people. do i trust that she'd govern as a moderate if elected president? no f***ing way. but her stint as a senator has been marked by shrewd moves and attention to the people back home in ny. even if you disagree with her take on ny issues, you can't argue that she hasn't been out there on the forefront of ones that matter to nyers or that she hasnn't fought for ny's share of the pie on every single front.

i wouldn't vote for her, but i respect her immensely.

as far as her chances in '08? it all depends on what happens in '06. if the democrats manage to make marked gains in the house and senate behind howlin' howie, i think her moderate stances will hurt her. if, as i expect, the gop makes modest (or marked) gains in the congress, she'll look like the voice of reason compared to howie, nancy, harry, et. al.

i think the biggest problem she has is the democrat's lack of balls. too many people at the top are fearful that she's too polarizing a figure and will work like maniacs to keep her from getting the nomination (in this effort they'll no doubt be assisted by scads of the dumber republicans). if they'd have had balls, they'd have worked like hell to get howlin' howie the nod in '04 and allowed him to crash and burn and thus expel the fanatics from the temple and allow the moderate voices of people like the dlc to take the reins. as it is, it's a toss-up, i think until after the mid-terms.

i'd like to see her get the nomination, not because i want to see her win (and for the record i reallly don't think she would unless the gop does something incredibly stupid, which to my woe is never out of the question), but i would like to see a woman at least get the nod from one of the parties.

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if this is any indication, her road could be "beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men." i still say '06 is the key for her, but it might not matter. moveon.org, the kos-sacks and the other true believers may have too much power now to be silenced even with by a resounding pounding at the polls. the capacity of some on the far left to rationalize and deny reality may insulate them from acceptance of a thrashing zas anything but voter fraud and a failure by the democratic party to embrace its "true" principles.


hillary gets spanked by the left

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I'm curious. What REAL baggage does Hillary have? I don't mean the wanna-be-swift-boat baggage. I mean the REAL baggage.

And is her baggage any worse than the DWI, cocaine snorting, AWOL, Saudi-tied, bad business/Arbusto/Rangers baggage that belongs to the current President?

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And, yet, none of that has hurt her Senate career. Some of it is even old hat. I think if W er... Rove taught us anything, it's that you can get through any of that crap with spin, cover up, and deflection. Billy fought it, too.

I just don't think she's that weak. Yes, a lot of people hate her. But as many love her. But we were just as divided this last time out with it seeming as if there were more Bush haters than Kerry haters.

And many more love or hate Bill--but Bill could have won 2000 if he could have run. And many more are of no opinion or are on the fence. I think she's a very formidable candidate.

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NOT! :P

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