Hillary to 'Suspend' Not Concede? — Page 2

"How is Obama going to get these independents and blue collar workers and Hillary supporters? "

Obama actually gets the independents. Not sure if you noticed that. If you know enough about elections and the electoral college you will see the "blue collar workers" generally wont even vote democrat. They weren't for Hillary or her husband. Democrats have to win in other ways. It would be nice for him to pick that up, but it didn't work for Gore or Kerry.

"Hillary is more to the center."

I don't think she would like that to be said about her. I'll give you that though he is a little more 'left'---ish...

"The GOP are going to DESTROY him."

They actually destroyed McCain in a prior election and nearly in this primary. Hillary Clinton went after Obama with all she had, I really can't imagine it getting any worse. She did EVERYTHING in her power to win this election, you have to give that to her.


" John Kerry was also told the election was his to win and then Bush won. "

That is not true. Bush still had very good approval ratings and they were polling very close. That was not an easy win. It wasn't like we went to bed thinking he was a shoe-in. This election is MUCH different.

" American voters can be very dumb (as 2004 proves)"

They were still scared.

McCain certainly has experience, but the fact that he is saddled with the Bush legacy, the Keating Five, his comments about Iran, his dismissal of Hagey and offensive remarks about Israel/Obama have seriously wounded this candidate. Not to mention his own party is not behind him. Some of us actually remember the day when Bush ran against him. They did so much to destroy that man. Remember the "John McCain has a black baby!" phone calls?

"If you don't understand the difference between the electorates in Democratic primary and a General Election, you should stop posting on political thread. They are apples and oranges."

I do understand it, and I understand our party will come together. What I'm counting is Obama's appeal in important electoral states.

"Hillary couldn't use all the oppo research she had--not in a Democratic primary--and there were no 527s to do the dirty work for her. "

Right. You have got to be kidding me. I hadn't realized she was a candidate for saint hood. My God how much time has past, I feel like I live in a vacuum. PJ you need to put down the crack.

Seriously there were several incidents AFTER super Tuesday where her campaign actually said "going negative" was a better way for her to get votes.

You need to come back to reality my man. What is your prediction tomorrow? Do you think she really will step aside? If not how will that make you feel about her?

I think PJ makes a interesting point (for Obama people) and that is Hillary's rogue tactics can be easily dismissed. Should she accept the VP slot, I hope we can just pretend what occurred in her campaigning never happpened.

McCain has a serious problems, hence his own party's fear of him running. I think he will self-destruct.

I defy any Hillary supporter to suggest that a Obama's victory over her is any less monumental than a victory over McCain. Hillary Clinton is a powerhouse. That woman fought with EVERYTHING she had. Papa posted some nonsense of a rumored "Michele Obama anti-whitey" tape. If that exists, I have no doubt Hillary Clinton's opposition research would not have Youtube the hell out of hit. With good reason too. Yet we get nothing. I still remember the Hillary interview where she hesitated when asked if Barrack was a Muslim. That hit me.

Hopefully without.

Youwantit, the point is the party is supposed to come together and support the sum of it's parts. Clinton is supposed to support Obama if he is the nominee.

Mejust, I have no doubt Clinton will support Obama. She has no choice but to campaign for him and work to get him elected. If she does not, she will be blamed for his loss.

But, you assume that her supporters will follow in lock step with her. I do not believe they will. Some will go to Obama, but some, I fear a large percentage, will go to McCain.

It may be news to you, but the whole free will thing still exists, and many moderate dems and republicans fear that Obama will be a nightmare, and raise their taxes significantly, while learning on the job. I am not sure what he can do to convince these folks he is not as liberal as he is.

McCain looks pretty good to them. They think he has moved to the right only to get the nomination, and will govern from the middle if elected.

I will be voting for Obama, but I think a large chunk of Clinton supporters may not.

Yea, sorry I can't believe democrats would turn like that. Where is that Obama chart we see on here.

I just don't think McCain will suffice for Hillary's base..

We will. Obama sells man.

You want it when, you more or less summed it up. I could not agree with you more. The attitude of the Obama supporters has a lot to do with it, which is sad because their not helping their candidate one bit. Theres an easy solution to all of this where the Obama people and the Hillary people all come out happy and its up to Obama to make it happen.UNITE THE PARTY NOW! What the hell are you waiting for?!

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Howard Dean brings up a good point. He is not concerned with the candidate who brings in 51% He is more concerned with the one who brings in 49%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_HdSZR9UR8&eurl=

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Starting a new, more positive thread for jrby.

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