How to Impeach George W. Bush
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#25re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 10:11am
jrb has said:
"It means that any action carried out under the commander-in-chief is ultimately the responsibility of the commander-in-chief. This attitude leads to the notion that a President will encourage moral behavior..."
Hmm let's see: How do you get moral behavior out of a President from Arkansas, an intern, a cigar and a stained Gap dress? How do you get moral behavior out of a statement such as "I did not have sex with that woman?"
broadwayguy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/03
#26re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 10:14amno need to hassel with impeachment. Just give him a bowl of pretzels.
#27re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 4:12pmSee the Pottery Barn thread. It looks like the revised number is at least 800 civilians dead (more likely 1200), and only 100 of them insurgents.
#28re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 4:19pm
actually, the 100 insurgents # is not correct.
The U.S. military claims to have killed 1,200 ”insurgents” in Fallujah. Abdel Khader Janabi, a resistance leader from the city has said that only about 100 among them were fighters.
”Both of them are lying,” the Red Cross official said. ”While they agree on the 1,200 number, they are both lying about the number of dead fighters.”
taking the word of an terrorist leader is like quoting the iraqi information minister from the height of the war.
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#29re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 4:32pmBG2--it takes more than pretzels to choke him. It takes pretzels and beer and massive amounts of cocaine...a normal night in Crawford.
#30re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 4:36pmpal would know. he's stiill pissed that dan gurley disinvited him. that's why he's really so anti-republican, they booted him out of the self haters club of america. poor pal, it just doesn 't get any easier does it?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#31re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 4:43pm
So, Papa, what do you think about the most recent high-profile videos to come out of Fallujah then?
And how in the hell have they gone without discussion on this board already?!?! Am I the only one completely sickened?!?!?!
#32re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 4:47pm
inthemoney, they have been discussed, see the fallujah pottery barn thread and the impeach bush thread. both contain talk about the video.
as far as i'm concerned he did the right thing. the day before members of that same company were killed when attempting to minister to a fallen murderer who was booby trapped. the soldier in question was wounded in that same incident. probaably should have pulled him from the field at that point, but i'll take a dead terrorist over a dead marine any day.
and no you're not the only one sickened.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#33re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 5:35pm
I was expecting to see slightly more outrage, Papa - it did surprise me to come on here & not see a thread dedicated to the video.
I saw the video(s?), btw. Didn't look to me like they were at all concerned. Heard the talking - no discussion of the possibility of booby-trapped insurgents. Pretty much one bloke taking the law into his own hands from what I saw. In both cases.
And, btw, it is illegal according to the Rules of War (they're very strict on treatment of POWs, dontcha know). Still think he was right? Can we demand that people live by the rules we set them when we break those very rules because they don't suit us?
#34re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 5:45pmDarlin', this administration doesn't live by the rules for an election--and they certainly aren't going to for their holy war.
#35re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 5:58pm
you know what they say, war is hell.
that's cute, the rules of war. "oh boys, you're not following the rules again."
you mean like when terrorists fire on troops from inside moques? or when palestinians transport weapons and explosives in red crescent and un vehicles? or when iraqis raise a white flag and then open fire? or when they cut off heads?
f*** 'em.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#36re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 6:03pmNice, papa. Yes, let's sink to their level and be barbarians, too. We shouldn't take the high road. Oh! But I forgot! Bush hasn't exactly taken the high road lately, so I guess ya'll are just being consistent.
#37re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 6:05pmjrb, there is no high road in war.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#38re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/16/04 at 6:07pmoh, but there is decency when allowed. It would be nice to see some from your CIC and those responsible for the immoral actions that have taken place. But, how can we expect moral actions in a war created by lies and greed?
#39re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/17/04 at 3:25am
Papa, if we sink to their level then we have no right to call ourselves "liberators". We have NO RIGHT to control their country if we are going to allow ourselves to commit such atrocities because "they do!"
How old are you exactly? Beause attitudes like that belong to CHILDREN - not so-called liberators occupying a country claiming they are going to lead it to a better future.
#40re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/17/04 at 8:33amshooting a wounded man when the day before just such a situation resulted in the death of marines is not an atrocity, it's a preventative measure. cutting off heads is an atrocity, i think we've managed to avoid that one. taking hostages and butchering them on video is an atrocity, again, think we managed to avoid that one. i find it childish and counter productive to compare the actions of the united states marine corps with the barbaric butchers of fallujah. hence i will at this point invoke the rubber/glue clause and forward this isue to kofi annan along with a bribe laarge enough to make him see things my way, just like it always does.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#42re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/17/04 at 10:52amcareful, third, you don't wanna get too close. i'm glowing i'm so freakin' radioactive lately!
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#43re: how to impeach george w. bush
Posted: 11/17/04 at 10:55amSadly, Papa and thirdrowcenter are two perfect examples of the reason why wars will always exist.
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