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#26

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Given that we're talking about nearly 5 decades of a playwright's career here, it's inevitable that the man's going to have at least as many artistic misses as successes. I'm a huge fan of Stoppard's in principal, though when I sit down and list my favorite works of his, they shake down to:
ROSENCRANTZ AND GUILDENSTERN...
TRAVESTIES
THE REAL THING
ARCADIA
and the screenplay for SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE.

The last run of live shows of his that we've seen (ROCK & ROLL, and INDIA INK) were especially dreary and dull. But to me, 5 works of genius is plenty for any artist to be labeled a genius in my book. How many did Miller produce? How many did Williams? Asking for more is just greedy on our part.
#27

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

I'm still debating on whether to see India Ink or not. Its playing in SF until Feb 8...
#28

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Well according to Terry Teachout from the Wall Street Journal, Williams had one and a half classic plays and the rest were just him repeating himself. :P (I personally love a lot of his less popular plays, but out of the ones that are more or less established as classics, there's Menagerie, Streetcar, Cat, Night of the Iguana and maybe Rose Tattoo and Sweet Bird of Youth--) So I think your point is valid, and certainly I agree with your choices with the possible exception of Shakespeare in Love (that is an interesting case of Stoppard basically adapting an existing work--since the Marc Norman screenplay for Shakespeare in Love had been kicking around Hollywood for a decade before he was brought on.)
#29

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

^ Oh right, thanks Eric. I forgot about the authorship controversy of SIL until you reminded us.

Right, so FOUR works of genius-- shouldn't FOUR works of genius be enough to label an artist a genius?

I'm feeling lightheaded at the moment because somewhere in the last couple of days I just sero-converted from Broadway Star to Broadway Legend. I may have to lie down with all the excitement...
#30

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Absolutely, and I'd make a case for Jumpers, as well.

Oh, and, umm, congratulations?! :P
#31

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Jungle Red, do not at all costs see Indian Ink. It's horrid and the cast is one of the worst assembled in ACT history. I don't like Arcadia or Rock 'n' Roll and this was way WAY worse than both of those plays.
#32

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Fantod, think you need to mature a little more before you start advising others. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it "horrid".
#33

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Fine.... In my ever so humble opinion I found it to be horrid, and the production itself was laughably bad, which is especially surprising considering the ACT usually does great work.
#34

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

I hear from friends who have seen "Indian Ink" at ATC that it's wonderful. I wish I were able to get to SF in time to see it, but I won't be in CA until the week after it closes.

Jungle, I'd love to hear your thoughts if you do get to see it.
#35

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

I've got to say the production of INDIA INK in NYC last year starring Rosemary Harris had everything in its favor cast wise, including a luminous performance by Romola Garei as Flora. But the show could not rouse us from the overcooked South Asian torpor the script induced. It seemed to be striving for that ineffable across-the centuries magic that Stoppard had achieved so effortlessly in the great ARCADIA script. Ah well-- maybe the ATC production could find more of the magic missing for us from the Roundabout last year.
#36

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

"The production itself was laughably bad, which is especially surprising considering the ACT usually does great work."

"They do great work, and then they let Carey Perloff direct in between" was a usual criticism of ACT when I lived in the Bay Area. There are a lot of people who shriek in horror when something they wanted to see performed is the one she chooses to direct that season.

I found her hit or miss, but she definitely had her detractors. I didn't like her for other reasons, namely how she would give speeches at media events that were so self-aggrandizing. "When I went to New York City, and saw the new musical version of Spring Awakening, I immediately thought this was a work I needed to bring to the Bay Area..." and we'd all sit there politely, all thinking, umm, it was kind of a show with huge buzz, and a Tony Award for Best Musical, and we're just the first stop of the national tour, so not sure what role you had in making them decide to take a hit show on tour?!

The other classic was when they did a talkback after Clybourne Park, and usually an audience talkback is benign and not enlightening, but one of the ACT staff said that "when we first read the work, the thought in the office was is this a show that the Bay Area could handle?!" and the ENTIRE talkback became about What about this play did you think we couldn't handle?! I never saw an audience talkback get so focused on a single question and just hammer away at the theater on it again and again, it was divine! And even the cast members onstage were like, I'm not sure why they thought you couldn't handle this, since it is a great incisive play, and on and on... and you could see the staffer onstage, and some in the house were like deer in the headlights, heh.

But I did see some great stuff on their stages when I lived in SF... including Rock and Roll.

Updated On: 1/28/15 at 05:43 AM

#37

How to write a Tom Stoppard play


Can someone not do something at all costs?
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#38

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Interesting post Haterobics. I've never been to an ACT talkback before, but that sounds about right for a lot of directors here in the Bay Area. The man who directs the San Francisco Playhouse (which does great work) always gives this absurd speech about the meaning of life and what theatre has to do with it before every performance and it is just so pretentious and ridiculous. Thankfully what he directs is usually really good unlike Perloff.
#39

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

I'm obviously a pervert as I enjoyed Rock'n'Roll but found the ideas in The Real Thing had been better explored elsewhere.

He may be extremely clever but I think Stoppard faces strong competition from Michael Frayn for the article's accolade of greatest living British playwright.

But I'd see something by Stoppard any day in preference to what passes as being cutting-edge modern British drama (Enron, That Face and, don't bother waiting for it, King Charles III).
#40

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

The only Stoppard play I enjoy without reservation is Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. The other plays feel to me like thesis projects. Academically and theoretically, they are impressive; Stoppard is unafraid to deal with major themes and actually venture outside the drawing room and create epic theatricality, for which he should be applauded. But ultimately his stuff just leaves me cold.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#41

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

Fantod, I was often impressed by Boxcar there. They do some fun, inventive stuff... I didn't get to catch it, but due to their unsavory location in SOMA, they actually took the audience out into their actual alley for Skid Row, etc.

I even saw a very impressive Equus there, and only recently realized the then-18 y/o Alan years ago was Papermill's recent Danny Zuko. Crazy...
#42

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

I saw ARCADIA performed in London back in '95 with Dearbhla Molloy and an insanely sexy Alexander Hanson as Septimus. I don't know if they're just better than us at Stoppard, but good GOD was that one of the most thrilling productions I've ever seen. The actors treated the verbal and academic gymnastics as life-or-death, and it gave the show a depth of feeling that could easily not be there in lesser hands.
#43

How to write a Tom Stoppard play


I played Valentine in college, and even being inside of it, watching that final scene from the wings shattered my heart night after night.
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#44

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

I bet you made a wonderful Valentine!

I had bought a copy of the play when I was in London, and a friend and I were the first to do anything from it at our school. They did it the year after I left, and if I knew, I would have paced myself to be a fifth year.
#45

How to write a Tom Stoppard play


I could totally see college Robbie as Septimus.

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#46

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

That scene changed my life as an actor. But that's not a story anyone cares to hear (read) about. It's more effective when I'm telling it mid-scotch.

I, however, was always cast as the older guy in college (Amiable in The Baker's Wife, Dorn in The Seagull, Max in The Real Thing), so I would have been either Bernard or Chater.
#47

How to write a Tom Stoppard play

ARCADIA is a play built on gossamer strands of mathematics, philosophy, the history of landscaping art, and true poetry that gets at the heart of impossible romantic love. But it's like angels landing on the head of a pin to get all the strands to weave together into a satisfying evening of theater.

My husband and I first saw the Lincoln Center production back in '95-- the feeling of exhilaration as we exited the theater at intermission is something we'll never forget-- so much to digest together, so much to pour over. And then, oh my God, the sense of catharsis at the end of the evening. The musical spell spun by that show was one of the all-time favorites evenings of playgoing we've ever shared. Phew!

Fast forward to the recent revival of 2011. Same play, same chance for exhilaration-- sadly the angels never gathered in the room that night. Is it Stoppard's fault his play is not a failsafe slam-dunk every time? Nope, the fact that this play is tough and ephemeral is part of its glory.

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