I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
ZONEACE
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#25re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 12:45pmthe weather in venice has been great. well until yester day when it snowed and the temperature dropped to like -3 celcius and the temperature has carried over to today. but until yesterday we hadn't had a day without sun the whole trip.
#26re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 12:48pm
There may actually be a Planet X (although in this case, X refers to the Roman numeral). Astronomers have discovered a trans-Neptunian object (TNO) nearly 400km larger in diamater than Pluto, which has been labeled 2003UB313 (nicknamed "Xena) and is awaiting official nomenclature from the IAU, that just may be our Xth planet. It even has a moon, discovered in 2005.
Ooooooo.
#27re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 12:52pm
Oh bway, I've lifted you before.... It ain't that hard...
I have often viewed meteorology as a failed science. But because nature is difficult to monitor and predict due to numerous factors that prevent studies from being "accurate."
#28re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 12:57pmI'm inclined to agree with you on your point about meteorology and it's difficulties, but I think what's really at the heart of this discussion isn't meteorology, it's climatology, and that's a whole different beast. It it still a very variable-laden science, but relies upon *millions* of years of data and much vaster scopes of observation than meteorology and has a much firmer hold in the soil of validity than weather forecasting, which is a toss-up at best anyway.
#29re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 12:58pm
*heart melts*
Two science-geeks in the same thread... *sigh*
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beacon1
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/31/04
#30re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 12:59pm
In my humble opinion...I think someone might be trying to get our attention...
That's just my take.
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#31re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:00pmYes. It's the tooth fairy. She wants her dollar back...
#32re: i think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:04pmjaily, you had me at trans-neptunian object.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
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he was the gimmicky sort
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#33re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:05pmBut even climatology with its millions of years worth of patterns is still difficult to "study" now. While Mother Nature and Mother Earth are able to work on their own times and scheduled regardless of many factors, they haven't had to deal with humankind at this "advanced" stage of technology and its attempts to control/affect weather and climate changes before. From either accelerating the depletion of the ozone layer to not so far fetched suggestions to destabilize pressure in the eye of a hurricane to affect its course.
beacon1
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#34re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:06pmAnyone measuring the ice caps lately?
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#35re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:07pm
And that's not considering the possibility that the Russians might already be controlling the weather...
Cold-war device used to cause Katrina?
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. - Randy Pausch
#36re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:08pm
Yeah, they're melting a little...apparently God is thirsty and needs some more fresh water.
#37re: i think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:09pmthank you mayor nagin.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#38re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:09pmIt's a meltin' beacon. Everyone got their swim fins on? Who is in charge of building the ark?
#39re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:10pm
Planet Xena? Will its first discovered moon be named Gabrielle?
Off-topic for a second, am I the only dork who's excited about the Pluto mission? (yes, yes, I know, the money could be spent better at home, yada yada)
etf: improper use of a possessive rather than the appropriate contraction
Updated On: 1/18/06 at 01:10 PM
beacon1
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/31/04
#40re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:12pmThis time around it won't be water...I believe its supposed to be fire?
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#41re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:13pmAh, the Pluto question... Last planet in our solar system? Or a large asteroid?
#42re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:14pmCalvin, I think it is really neat!! But then again I was six yers old when we landed on the moon and I thought Neil Armstrong waved to me too!
#43re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:14pm
Again, cookiemuffin, I'm certainly not disagreeing with you. Earth sciences will never *be* pure sciences, and we cannot expect them to be. That's what makes them, for me, at least, so very exciting. The chance to take a crack at interpreting just what effect human civilization is having on the planet and trying to suss out just where we might be heading if we *keep* doing what we're doing is, for some, like throwing a $100 bill at a 9 year old and locking them in Economy Candy for the day.
For others, it is frustrating, annoying, and is the complete antithesis of what science should be, as it provides no clear path to a direct and absolute answer.
I guess I'm just not one of those people...I enjoy the variabilities and the multi-possibility predictive outcomes of something like climatology or plate tectonics. I'm just not a petri dish kinda guy.
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edit to add comment re: Pluto-
Isn't that a gas? (planetary pun intended) There still isn't a clear definition of what even *constitutes* a planet...little link included, just for a fun quick read!
Oh, and yes, Calvin, the moon has been nicknamed Gabrielle. They are NOT the official names, though, remember...they're just monikers attached by the discoverers.
Is he or isn't he?
#44re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:24pm
"I enjoy the variabilities and the multi-possibility predictive outcomes of something like climatology or plate tectonics. I'm just not a petri dish kinda guy. "
Can I quote you on that? RoadCase would so love this topic.
#45re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:28pm
*ahem*
Test tubes, thank you...
I don't disagree on the fascination of earth sciences either. It was the first science that got me into the larger realm of the sciences. It's less controlled nature is certainly less of a "pure science" (though I don't think what we would call the pure sciences really "pure"), given all of the probablity and more esoteric mathmatic nature of the variables.
To some degree, the earth sciences mimic life...
beacon1
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/31/04
#46re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:30pm
This is a fascinating discussion.
Who says posting on messageboards rots your brain...
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#47re: I think we've reached a critical desalinization point.
Posted: 1/18/06 at 1:38pm
I like the "...mimics life" comment, particularly because, really, when you boil alllllll of it down, each branch is the study of life. What makes life, what ends life, what life becomes when it isn't life anymore, what constitutes life in the first place, how/what changes life, and how/what life changes.
Speaking of petri dishes and test tubes...it *would* be fun to play with some agar right about now.
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