James Barbour Sentenced!- Page 3

[Enjolras77]

Posted: 3/3/08 at 10:02am

Here is Barbour's listing on the NYC Dept. of Corrections website:
NYC: Department of Corrections

[winston89]

Posted: 3/3/08 at 4:16pm

AnnaK<3LMIP

I agree with what your saying. Yes, what Barbour did was wrong and he is getting punnishment for it. Legally the law is on the girl's side. Morally, however is a different story. I would have trouble beleaving that the girl didn't know that what she was doing was wrong. Unless they can prove that she has some sort of mental problem ( which she doesn't.) And, because of that she should get some sort of punishment as well. There is a moral difference between being a minor and being a minor who is in charge of their actions and words and knows what to do and what not to do and that sort of thing.

The courts don't say that. You can say that something is right legally and wrong morally. That is what I ment before when I said that Barbour is not fully to blame.

[AnnaK<3LMIP]

Posted: 3/3/08 at 4:45pm

That's true, but again, as the adult, he should have had the sense to not let it happen. A teen knows what they're doing is wrong when they seek alcohol from someone over 21, but the over-21 gets in trouble because they should know better than to give it to them.

I do get what you're saying though. But what kind of punishment can she get? She is the victim, even if she knew what she was doing and that what she was doing was wrong.

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 3/3/08 at 4:46pm

There is a moral difference between being a minor and being a minor who is in charge of their actions and words and knows what to do and what not to do and that sort of thing.

No, actually there's not. He, being the adult, was accountable. We're not talking about two kids with an age difference of a couple years, say, a senior in high school dating a freshman. He was more than twice her age at the time of the incident; she was still a school girl living at home. She sought him out because he was famous and was flattered that he paid attention to her; it really doesn't matter if she chased him or dressed like a strumpet. It wasn't ever a relationship and he used her for sex.

[Tom1071]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 1:01pm

I wonder how he's coping with jail.

[amalou]

Posted: 3/17/08 at 8:30pm

Anyone see Notes on a Scandal? All I can think of right now is when Bill Nighy is yelling at Cate Blanchet for sleeping with a 15-year-old boy.

She says "It's not like he's innocent- he's almost 16..."
And Bill Nighy shouts "Of course he's innocent, HE'S FIFTEEN!"

[TOTCSF1]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 4:04am

Me, too...let's hope he is well. Inspite of all that's been said in this board, this situation he is now in is really not necessary. The guy is NOT a pedophile, and this girl was no innocent victim either. She wanted to get "ahead"(I know, it fits her, although I did not started to mean it that way)in the biz. Face it, she met this nice guy who was already stablished, and used sex as her means to attain her objectives(using him as a stepstool, so to speak, to rise). What she has done to him is a horrible thing. The girl in California turned out to be a nasty hoax(not by the girl herself, but a third, malicious party), and the prosecutor seems to have "skipped" very important facts in his favor, in order to win her case, which really is a real crime in itself. Let's hope Jmaes comes out OK from all this. He deserves better, he is a good guy.

[nygrl23]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 4:52am

So it wasn't just a fangirl situation, it was to get a foothold in the business? What was a 15 year old hoping to gain, a lead role in a musical?
Updated On: 3/29/08 at 04:52 AM

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 5:54am

TOTCSF1, you're a sock puppet.

Go away.

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 3/29/08 at 9:01am

Once more. She was underage; he was well into his adult years. He had the legal responsibility to know better.

[TOTCSF1]

Posted: 3/30/08 at 4:56am

NYgrl23, that's exactly right...she wanted to get into the business bad enough, whether musical or non-musical theater, and Barbour had enough fame and connections at the time, to warrant this for her. I just can't see her saying she was a "victim" when she willingly went into his dressing room(you know, you can say NO at ANYTIME), WITH her parents in the audience and boyfriend, AND, then went (months later to that) to his apartment ALONE. She was almost 16 years old--you know, I remember being 13, and knowing that I was not to tolerate OR participate this type of behaviour(that was MY upbringing). At 16, when almost HALF(per the sad statisitcs)of this age group are "active" in sexual relations, you know you are seeking it and wanting it, and should not cry victim, whether it is someone your own age or older. She knew the kind of damage she could do to his life by using her "underage" card. Yes, agree, HE should have said no to this (and he ADMITTED it), but he nipped it right at the bud, and never had relations(sexual, that is), with her again, so the whole thing has been taken to a disproportionate level, in order to make him look like a pedophile, and ruin his life and career.
Many ways to resolve an issue, but apparently she wanted to bring him down, regardless. For God's sake, he's in JAIL now!! What else do they want from him? I think the cost of all this for him has been higher than what it should be warranted, considering how he corrected his behaviour, even BEFORE he was accused.
Oh, "wanna be a foster"(?!), with that board name and that picture, you are the 'sock puppet" here, so take your adcvice and go away...

[artscallion]

Posted: 3/30/08 at 8:20am

It doesn't matter what she wanted, suggested, promoted or encouraged. A child cannot give consent to sex with an adult. And it is the adult's responsibility to not let anything come of the situation. If an adult has sex with a child, the child is just as much a victim as if the adult gave the child a bottle of vodka. Sure the child may want it. But it's the adult's job to protect the child from things they want that are harmful to them.

To blame a sixteen-year-old girl for being an over ambitious opportunist, who wanted to rise to stardom while bringing him down, while defending the forty two-year-old man who had his way with her is reprehensible. Either you are the Barbour version of a Claymate, TOTCSF1, or you are very young and don't yet understand these things yourself.

[wexy]

Posted: 3/30/08 at 8:40am

It's the same with all this epidemic of women teachers screwing 16 year old boys, its illegal.


(I like the line- Nativity- New Jersey) Whatever happened to Birthplace?

[TOTCSF1]

Posted: 4/3/08 at 11:37pm

Artscallion: Mr. Barbour was 34 at the time of the incident, just wanted to point that out. At that age, not EVERYONE is so "grown up", at least mentally. Trust me, and I am not so very young that I do not understand these things, actually because of my experience, I can speak. I know he was the adult, but portraying someone as a "defenseless child" is also not in context here. If words are taken literally, without looking at the situation behind them, things can get out of proportion. Like I said, in THIS case(I am not speaking about "true" victims of underage crimes), I don't think for what actually happened, a man should have been put behind bars--like I said, there are many ways to solve an issue, and this girl does not show any signs of having been "traumatized", taken advantage of, or anything else--just look at her career right AFTER she accused him, and how she was going on with her life before that as well...no signs of anything there, and remember, she and Barbour were friendly for 4 years, e-mailing and all, until perhaps someone put her up to this, on the account of the "legality" of the case, not from actual damage.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/3/08 at 11:52pm

You're kinda creepy.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 4/3/08 at 11:58pm

It does not matter if she was traumatized or not. Barbour BROKE THE LAW and was punished for it. How difficult is that to understand?

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 4/3/08 at 11:59pm

You're kinda creepy.

Pal Joey wins.

End thread.

[Iris Chacon]

Posted: 4/29/08 at 12:11pm

Release date 2008-04-04. Guess he is out.

Updated On: 4/29/08 at 12:11 PM

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 4/29/08 at 4:54pm

Anyone know what's happening with him in "A Tale of Two Cities"?

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 4/29/08 at 10:17pm

Nothing has changed as far as his involvement in the production. They've been casting the other roles for the past couple of weeks, and I've had two client offers this evening (after today's final callback session), so it will be finished soon.

[DAME]

Posted: 4/29/08 at 10:20pm

Two clients? What are you.. a agent now?

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 4/29/08 at 10:25pm

More like again, actually. Yes.

[DAME]

Posted: 4/29/08 at 10:29pm

HMMMM. I was here first.

[Mamamia Sammy2]

Posted: 4/30/08 at 12:18pm

In the world of Rath.... Agent = Receptionist in the agent's office

Updated On: 4/30/08 at 12:18 PM