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John Kerry "insults the troops"
#25john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:50pmAnd.......scene.
JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#26john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:50pmYes, I agree it changes the entire meaning. But, I'm sure no amount of explanation is going to satisfy everyone. So, I leave it for others to make their own calls.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#27john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:51pm
"It makes slightly more sense in this context."
It still doesn't make sense because Kerry didn't do so great in school either.
Lackluster Kerry
JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#28john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:54pmAs I said the explanation will not satisfy everyone.
kelzama
Broadway Star Joined: 9/14/04
#29john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:54pmSo it all depends on what the definition of "is" is, really, then?
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#30john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:56pmThis is not going to play well no matter how it's spun. It was a blunder and something we didn't need this close to the midterms.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#31john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:56pm
And btw people, smart and not so smart, are stuck in Iraq!!
Updated On: 10/31/06 at 03:56 PM
#32john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 3:56pmand you can look it up, i actually insulted george bush, before i insulted the troops...i thought it was george who was born with the silver foot in his mouth?
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Auggie27
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/03
#33john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:00pm
Oh please, there's no interpretation issue here. Kerry was all over CNN today, clearly stating "I was talking about the president, not the troops." He clarified, and he's allowed to think Bush is a boob if he wants to. If only he had these balls before.
I hate to break it to the GOP-posters, but a huge portion of this great land of ours thinks Bush is a shallow, incurious elitist who shouldn't be sending the brightest and best to be blown up while they act as rent-a-cops in chaotic Bagdad. All of this tsk-tsking about "supporting the troops" is the usual right wing spin. Hating Bush doesn't make you UN-American. On the contrary, for many -- including many troops and their families -- it defines a passionate, very patriotic fervor.
JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#34john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:02pm
"So it all depends on what the definition of "is" is, really, then?"
Yes, I suppose you could say that, or perhaps you could use the phrase "stay the course" instead of "is". It's all semantics right?
#35john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:03pmI'm not a "GOP-poster," just someone who can think for herself.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#36john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:05pm
Kerry can explain all he wants. I hate to say it won't work. Just like it doesn't work when Bush says he's never neen the "stay the course" guy.
And are we forgetting an important deciding factor in deciding to enlist? Economics.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#37john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:05pm
Kerry can explain all he wants. I hate to say it won't work. Just like it doesn't work when Bush says he's never been the "stay the course" guy.
And are we forgetting an important deciding factor in choosing to enlist? Economics.
Updated On: 10/31/06 at 04:05 PM
#38john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:05pm
now just listen to what he meant, not what he said, you idiots. christ, you people are so f*cking stupid i'm amazed yer not all in iraq like those morons that are so dumb that they have no choice but to be acting out the terrorist dreams of this war-mongering administration by slaughtering innocent iraqis and wiping their butts with korans while raping and pillaging on a scale not seen since the mongol hordes (my dear wife's ancestors) ran wild. think people, it's not what he says, but what he means as explained later. god.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
JohnBoy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/06
#39john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:07pmOh, I get it now. He's really wondeful!
#40George Bush INSULTS the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:11pm
Who gives a SH*T was Kerry said? Is he running for office?
George Bush LIED to get us into a war, then INSULTED the troops by UNDEREQUIPPING them, MISMANAGING the strategy and TURNING HIS CHICKEN-HAWK BACK on their coffins and limbless bodies when they returned.
THAT's "insulting the trops"!
O spin, ye losing Republicans, spin. Congressional investigations begin in January.
touchmeinthemorning
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
#41George Bush INSULTS the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:12pmcountdown to deletion of thread...10...9...8...
JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#42john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:15pm
Of course George Bush has never misspoke. Here are a few examples of his fine rhetorical skills. I particularly like the 2nd one.
"This morning my administration released the budget numbers for fiscal 2006. These budget numbers are not just estimates; these are the actual results for the fiscal year that ended February the 30th." --George W. Bush, on the fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30, Washington, D.C., Oct. 11, 2006"
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006"
"President Bush: "Peter. Are you going to ask that question with shades on?"
Peter Wallsten of the Los Angeles Times: "I can take them off."
Bush: "I'm interested in the shade look, seriously."
Wallsten: "All right, I'll keep it, then."
Bush: "For the viewers, there's no sun."
Wallsten: "I guess it depends on your perspective."
Bush: "Touche.
--an exchange with legally blind reporter Peter Wallsten, to whom Bush later apologized, Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006"
#43john kerry's wife uses the blood of soldiers in her ketchup
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:16pmwhat's gonna get it deleted?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
JohnBoy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/06
#44George Bush INSULTS the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:16pmApparently a lot of people care. It's being covered in the press, and here on BWW. He's still a Senator, isn't he? If you're in politics, you're always campaigning.
#45john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:17pm
Oh for God's sake. We all know Bush misspeaks all the time. He's a proven idiot.
Kerry's misstep warrants discussion because some of us expect more from the Dem leaders.
JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#46john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:19pmSorry, but perhaps I expect more from our President.
touchmeinthemorning
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
#47john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:19pm
Well, the nature of language is that it exists in context. And that the receiver of a message decodes the message for meaning.
Let's all try to at least coordinate our decoding with the intention of the senders, and with respect to context.
kjklo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/29/03
#48George Bush INSULTS the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:21pmIsn't it astounding that the most inconsequential trivia is seized upon and treated as if it's of vast significance in the election? One senator made a clumsily worded, unfunny joke. So what? I doubt that a lot of people care. The whole incident reeks of being one of those manufactured controversies (think "war on Christmas").
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#49john kerry 'insults the troops'
Posted: 10/31/06 at 4:22pmJoe Lieberman (I-CT) never would have said it.
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