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LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?

LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?

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LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#0

Posted: 1/3/05 at 11:08am

I'm completely amazed at the direction Liza Minnelli's life has taken. It's as if she's trying to mirror Momma in all things, from career to personal life. Okay, granted -- a predisposition to addiction can be genetically inherited. But can a predisposition to bad decisions and shooting one's self in the foot at all turns?

But, upon reflection, when Judy died, her career was pretty much in the crapper. Only time and distance have given her the respect she now enjoys. Maybe it will be the same way with Liza May, I dunno.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#1

Posted: 1/3/05 at 11:09am

Rath--would you like to field this one?


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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#2

Posted: 1/3/05 at 11:34am

LEAVE THE POOR WOMAN ALONE!!!


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#3

Posted: 1/3/05 at 11:41am

I wasn't picking on her. I'm genuinely curious about it.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#4

Posted: 1/3/05 at 12:01pm

If your curious then google away and read. But don't start any more dish on her. LEAVE HER ALONE. I wish her all the best and can't wait for her new movie to come out.


HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!
Updated On: 1/3/05 at 12:01 PM

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#5

Posted: 1/3/05 at 12:56pm

God God...you queens need to sneak up on a valium and inhale it. No need for all the frothing at the mouth...

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#6

Posted: 1/3/05 at 12:57pm

Unlike Fight Club, the first rule of Drama Queen Club is that you do not talk about Liza. re: LIZA trying to be JUDY?  Could it be?


Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#7

Posted: 1/3/05 at 12:57pm

LOL! You are right. But I am a good queen. I take care of my Liza.


HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#8

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:03pm

Are you f*cking kidding me?

Noticing the parallels between Liza and Judy is somehow unfit for discussion?

rlb, I've noticed it for years. It's very, very sad. But also fascinating. How could someone who saw first-hand the ravages of this business (and drugs and liquor) fall into the exact same trap?

Cue Iris to come and chastise me.


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#9

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:05pm

Robbie, will you marry me?


Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#10

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:06pm

I'm more interested in the parallels between Lorna and Sid.

re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#11

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:06pm

I didn't read anyone dishing on Liza. I think rlbgbc raised a valid concern about her life paralleling her mother's. And how freaking unrealistic it is to think Liza wouldn't be discussed on this board.


Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#12

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:07pm

Well, pop, I would love to, but my man may have something to say about that.

Maybe we can all convert to Mormonism and marry as many as we'd like.

And then I'd like to take you home and eat...


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#13

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:07pm

But Robbie;
It is so cheap and easy. And so boring. The woman is phenomenal and I wish we could just talk about her talent and all the good things that are in fact going on in her life. And yes.. alot of older quuens are protective of her ( me included). Saw her in concert this past summer. She was wonderful.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#14

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:08pm

Ha ha! I guess I will have to be the other woman then. That's fine.


Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#15

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:10pm

Shall I just call you Amber Frye, pop?


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#16

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:14pm

The parallels to be drawn are Psychology 101. Go pick up a textbook. I'm tired of dragging Liza through the mud. I would hope we'd have a little more class on this board.

That said, DGrant, I'm fascinated - what parallels do you see between the elder and younger Luft?


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#17

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:16pm

Everybody needs to stop watching DR. PHIL and get out of the feeling circle!


"I'm so looking forward to a time when all the Reagan Democrats are dead."

re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#18

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:16pm

Rath - although I was only kidding, I actually DO see a similar approach to life going on - straightforward, basic and with family at the center - and they both seem to understand that it's show BUSINESS.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#19

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:18pm

How's that workin' for ya, robbie? re: LIZA trying to be JUDY?  Could it be?

And DGrant - I guess those parallels are there, but I do believe Lorna is a bit more - sane - than her dad...


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#20

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:18pm

Rath - she's female, of course she is re: LIZA trying to be JUDY?  Could it be?

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#21

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:21pm

Oh please - I'm a lesbian so I can tell you better than anyone that women are definitely no more sane than men as a species!

Actually, that was a poor choice of words - I meant less perniciously controllling.


Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#22

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:24pm

Rath - I'll EASILY grant you controlling. Having observed how Lorna lets her manager act, I'd say she could take a little more control for herself. I still think she's very much her father's daughter - at least as much as Liza is Judy's.

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#23

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:27pm

Rath;
Are you Corines lover? i am asking because I do know she dates some wonan who is also on line and I am just curious.


HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!

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re: LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be?#24

Posted: 1/3/05 at 1:28pm

I hesitate to interject anything here, for fear of being strung up by the bollocks, but I'm throwing caution to the wind.

I think Lorna appears a bit more "sane" than her Dad -- and her stepsister -- because she's made a conscious decision to break the family pattern(s).


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