LIZA trying to be JUDY? Could it be? — Page 2

Lorna's a lot more sane than Sid. He's a maniac! He used to tell people he was in the "suit" business--meaning he filed lawsuits for a living. And he doesn't have family at the center of his life: he sues or threatens to sue family members too.

Lorna just plays her gigs and raises her kids (one in highscool, one in college) and takes life one day at a time.

Anyway, rlbgbc--I didn't mean to incur the wrath of the board on you. Rath has had amazing insight into Liza's life on other threads, but I think everyone sensitive because it's easy for threads like this to slip from information to speculation to psychologizing to bashing.

But we can celebrate Liza's enormous talent and, at the same time, mourn the choices she couldn't control and the choices she chose.

PalJoey
(who still dreams of seeing "Liza and Lorna LIVE at Carnegie Hall")

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PJ - I'd actually really like to see that show!

DAME - did you see Lorna's show?

Rath;
I agree with you 100 %. And one can't blame her for doing what she has to do to make a living.
Dgrant;
I did see the show. It was a bit to eerie for me . However i enjoyed listening to all the arrangements since she used her mothers originals.

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peakng of which; Liza now states in her concert bio that "Liza With a Z" is being remasterd and re-released on dvd. Anyone have a date?

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I saw Lorna's show several times. As Rath says, "Girlfriend can saaang"--and to hear a voice like that do those original Nelson Riddle and Mort Lindsay arrangements is thrilling.

It's also extraordinarily moving. The Natalie Cole-style duets with Judy on video for "You're Nearer" and "I Can't Give You Anything But Love are beautiful. The "Born in a Trunk" sequence in which she tells Jesse and Vanessa "How Grandma Got to Carnegie Hall" is great fun. And the finale, in which she sings a counter melody to her mother's "Over the Rainbow" is the pefect way to end: we get to hear "Rainbow" without hearing someone else sing it.

I don't really think it's "cashing in" on her mother. Once she got to be 47--the age at which her mother died--and discovered she was still very much alive, I think she just decided there was no reason to run any longer. She might just as well celebrate her mother's spirit.

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Updated On: 1/3/05 at 01:45 PM

Pal;
Alot of people that saw the show felt the way you did. I didn't feel she was cashing in on her mother. But to me there was a sadness about the whole thing. From the performance all the way to the audiencce ( which consisted of lots of senior citizens). It was just errie.

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You saw sadness. I saw gladness: Glad she made such wonderful music, glad she made so many people happy, glad she was a loving mother, if not a perfect one. (Who is?)

But, yes of course, there is a great deal of sadness in all the Garland girls--and in Joe.

But not in Jesse and Vanessa--and that, I think, would make Judy VERY joyous!

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Wistfulness. THATS THE WORD.

Robbie - I think you definitely have a point. And I also have gotten the impression that, while she certainly doesn't have a problem with gay people, she also doesn't seem to have embraced them the way Judy and Liza did - at least she hasn't married any

I loved Judy, Lorna and Liza's TALENT.......Their voices are heavenly devine......that is all I care about!!!!

Yawper - I'm curious about that myself. Lorna has vigorously denied it, as far as I know.

Robbie - don't really know - 'family honor' thing maybe? Not that it's 'bad', just not true.