Let's fire some gays! — Page 2

I suggest Rosa Parks and Ghandhi.

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I think one of the keys is going to be 'coming out'. The time has passed when it is acceptable to hide away - for any reason.

I also think one of the possibilities is to stop paying taxes.

So...what?

Should I stop riding busses or stop eating salt?

Sorry I'm being flip, but what specifically do you think will work?

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I agree about coming out. There is literally nothing more important than coming out. No one's political view gets changed until their friends are affected by policies. So, come out if you want rights.

Also, write letters. March in parades. Call homophobic people out on their homophobia. Demand that your friends do the same.

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Oh Touchme, I'm so tired of marching, of running in fund raising runs, of going to parties to support HRC, of writing letters, of donating to Lambda Legal Defence and HRC, in trying to open the eyes of my Republican mother. Thank goodness there are some of you out there with more energy to support the cause because I need to sit down and rest. I hope things change because of the November election, but I'm cautiously pessimistic.

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However, money is also the reason that people in Hollywood will not come out. Ever.

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Yes. Those peace rally's may not have stopped the bombing, but they will help in the future. Just watch.

And, you'll notice that Bush didn't do a number on Osama. Why? He loves his friends.

In the same way, if we befriend homophobes, they will learn to not attack us.

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Touchme, please don't be offended but can I ask how old you are?
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OUR FRIENDS. They want nothing to do with us. They want to see us get AIDS and die off.

"Listen girlee we have learned, non-violence will get you burned"
-Tony Kushner

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But Robbie - many, MANY have not - and I really believe that's a problem.

Yes, Matt...the quasi-racist character said that in Tony's musical. That is unfair to claim those were his words.

Second, the point is that they hate us, but don't know us. See...the difference between us is that you believe people are prone to hate, and I believe people are prone to love (if given the education).

Matt, I'm older than you. Not by much, but I am older. I've been working with GLBT causes for over a decade now. Not long to many, but I'm fairly certain my education hasn't failed me too badly on this issue (assuming the point to your question on my age is rooted in the easy response of "well, you're young and I'm wise" -- which, btw, is another way of saying nuh-uh).

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Not at all, Touchme. But at this point, I think it's naive to believe that you can just befriend the enemy and make it all better.
Like BT said, people who have been fighting longer than I have are tired and understandably so.

But I'm not. I'm not tired at all and I'm going to see equality in my lifetime by whatever means I have to get it.

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Updated On: 9/23/04 at 05:08 PM

Right? I mean...I don't think I was ever in. I mean, I've always been just so GAY!

My response was specifically about the 'older generation' of posters here. As for nationally, please sweet Jesus LORD these faggots need to get the f*ck OUT!

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Matt,

No one said "befriend the enemy and make it all better". There are two problems.

1-The befriending happens, and then struggles and debates happen over periods of years, and then...maybe...they will come to see the light (as it were).

2-We don't befriend the enemy. We befriend our neighbor. Did no one teach you Jesus' teachings on how to treat our neighbor? And, by neighbor, of course, Jesus meant everyone. To live life in any other way is truly naive.

I understand that people are tired of fighting, but...the trick to any political movement is perspective. As short ago as 10 years, less than 10% of Americans believed in gay marriage. Now, we're up to almost half. I'd call that rapid change...especially when compared to other movements.

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