Marriage vs Civil Union (not the question you'd think) — Page 2

JAG,

I was just answering your question about who came up with that awful 're-branding'... I hate it.


Everything is ready for the wedding
The Choir's been rehearsing for a week
The Minister is standing in the pulpit
But the Groom it seems is playing hide and seek
While here I am standing, waiting starry-eyed
When will I ever get to be a bride

I wanna get married
I wanna get spliced
I long to be knotted and see my friends potted
I wanna be confettied and riced

They say that married life
Is what one makes it
I'm sure I've got what it takes
But no one takes it

I wanna get settled
Crawl into a shell
I wanna start cooing and spend my life doing
The things that mom and pop used to spell

Give me a cottage small
Where the railroad never stops
I wanna sleep in pyjama tops
I wanna get married

I wanna get married
I wanna get spliced
I long to be knotted and see my friends potted
I wanna be confettied and riced

Let others play the field
I'd rather choose one
I want to own a twin set
And only use one

I wanna get settled
I wanna play house
Though men are all no good, they say it feels so good
To have your own particular louse

They say that magic thrill
When they play "Here Comes The Bride"
Works better than Coke vanilla light
I wanna get married

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Updated On: 6/2/09 at 04:34 PM

Oh, Stockard. I was talking to two of my neighbors last weekend who are completely against gay marriage. I just couldn't even make any headway in arguing with them about it (and believe me, I certainly tried). They staunchly believe that allowing gay people to marry will lead to the downfall of the entire civilization. It was incredibly frustrating to listen to them - their ignorance was just horrible.

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Good point......

The commercials in NY have been fast and furious for gay marriage in the past few weeks, and surprisingly I haven't seen anything anti. I don't understand how people can watch these commercials and not logically think that gay marriage should be legal.

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As do I JAG. I agree with Camille in *theory*, that is if this were a perfect world and marriage wasn't inexorably tied up with religion.

But it's not a perfect world and I will fight with everything I have until gays can enjoy the same right to wed as everyone else.

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"So why do they use procreation as the reasoning behind their 'Family Values'? Straight people are still going to have sex. NOTHING is going to change for them. NOTHING. It won't affect them in ANY way."

"So, WHY do they continue to torment us? I don't care what they are doing behind their closed doors, and they should keep their noses out of what I do behind mine."


Diva, this is exactly what I try to explain to people. Why? What do you care and how is it going to affect you? (not you-you, but people that oppose gay marriage). I mean WTF?

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Marrying a toaster is ridiculous. On the other hand, I really, Really, REALLY love my central air conditioner.

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Danmag, tell them yes, that is a legitimate concern: exactly the same way allowing women to vote led to the possiblity of hamsters in the voting booth.

The talk about gay marriage leading to the downfall of society as we know it, that's all nonsense. However, I think there are legitimate questions regarding the separation of the religious and civil that needs to be addressed. For example, most priests and ministers are also justices of the peace, so that when they marry people, it is both a religious and civil ceremony. While I disagree with the religious argument against gay marriage, I do respect their right to have that opinion, and I don't think priests or ministers should be compelled to officiate a gay wedding, even in the civil sense. I think there are concerns, probably misguided, in the religious community that legalizing gay marriage would require them to give religious recognition. I think it needs to be made clear that there will be zero impact to the religious community when civil marriage becomes law.

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Re: Marrying a dog. I would rather they just admit they are homophobes than try to put THAT out as their reasoning as to why they are against gay marriage.

And these are educated, normal-seeming people. Not toothless hillbillies drinking moonshine out of a still. That's what made it all the more depressing.

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Danmag, just ask them to move.

When people use the whole 'Whats next? Marrying dogs?!' argument I just deflate inside.

Equating an entire group of people to dogs. Nice.

I wonder if they'd say such things so nonchalantly if it were about Black people? The initial response would be 'Ohhh no, of course not! We're not racist! Thats so wrong!'.

Ugh.

The simple truth is that it's still okay to hate gay people. It's still okay to think of them as lesser, and say so.

One more parallel to the civil rights stuggles in the 60s...when people were vocal and not reviled for their racism.

We are the boogeymen of today.

(boogeypeople?)

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