May 22 talking points
May 22 talking points
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#1May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/19/11 at 12:15pm
When the world doesn't end this weekend, won't it prove we're NOT to blame?
It's the homos fault
Updated On: 5/19/11 at 12:15 PM
#2May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/19/11 at 1:21pmOn May 22, a group of homos should show up at Camping's church and ask him why he's so gay.
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#3May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/19/11 at 1:46pmI want to go see him the 22nd and ask why he was Left Behind!
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#4May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/19/11 at 5:16pm
Does anyone know anyone who actually believes this? I'm sure everyone knows end times Christians (I believe there are actually some on this board) but does anyone know anyone who really believes the rapture is happening this weekend?
Updated On: 5/19/11 at 05:16 PM
StockardFan
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/19/08
#5May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/19/11 at 9:25pmI'm just glad my son hasn't heard anything about this. His birthday's on the 25th. He'd be freakin' out.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#6May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/19/11 at 9:34pmWell, if he'd accept Jesus Christ as is personal savior he'd have nothing to freak out about!
#8May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 3:40am
I'm an anti-theist but I have completely immersed myself in this story for the past couple of weeks. I've read both sides of the argument and while Harold Camping makes interesting points, they are contradicted several times with other biblical scripture (chapter 24 of Matthew)... It even says in that chapter that false prophets will rise and will deceive many, and that the Lord will return someday but no man will know the day or hour - End times Christians believe that we will know, however, the month and year, and that we are in the season. It's an interesting thing to ponder but I still believe that the bible is a fictional text and that man created God.
Mr. Camping said that there would be a rolling earthquake that would advance with the sun... He stated that it would definitely begin at 6pm in Kiritimati (because...who knew? Earthquakes are time zone specific) and would then advance to the Chatham Islands, then New Zealand, etc, while the rest of the world watched in anticipation as a select 3% of the world's Christian population rose with the Lord. Well, nothing yet (surprise, surprise). 6pm has come and gone in several areas. By 6am EST, it will be May 22nd in Kiritimati and Harold Camping will proven wrong, once again. It is expected that they will campaign for another 5 months because perhaps he got it wrong and the rapture is actually meant to occur on October 21st (his expected date for complete obliteration of the universe).
My personal thought on Harold Camping is that he is living a very sad life. I have been reading about what he does day to day and it makes me very upset and I wish that he wasn't so misunderstood. He lives just a few miles from his radio station and he practically never leaves his town (Oakland). His children and grandchildren no longer see him because both him and his wife firmly believe in the May 21st end times prediction but his children do not. And I think that since Harold Camping is nearing the end of his life, he is having a difficult time grasping death and moving on. He was been proven a false prophet in the past (his book 1994? predicted the rapture in 1994 and...well, yeah). And in the bible it says that false prophets will be denied by Christ (don't quote me on this, I cannot remember which passage it is). I think this is the last thing he has to hang onto. He has lost family and friends to this prediction and if it doesn't happen, I don't imagine we will ever hear from him again. Right now he is essentially public enemy number one and when every clock in the world eventually changes to May 22nd, he has nothing left.
I have a type A personality so while I really don't believe any of this will happen, ever, I will be spending my May 21st at the computer with a worldwide earthquake tracker, google news, and twitter's trending topics. Happy doomsday!
#9May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 7:09am
"...I still believe that the bible is a fictional text and that man created God."
I don't think the bible is totally fiction, I think it's the accumulation of millenia of folklore, some of which has some basis in reality. For example, I am almost certain that there was a Great Flood thousands of years ago; there's too much commonality among different civilizations to believe it never happened. However, I do completely agree that 'man created God'. Given what people knew and didn't know thousands of years ago, it's not surprising that people created an all-powerful entity to explain what they couldn't comprehend. What astounds me, however, is that with everything we've learned, modern people are still letting their lives be controlled by interpretations of the ignorance of ancient people.
#10May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 4:31pmYes, I agree with that. I mean, I do believe Jesus was a real man and that pieces of biblical text are indeed true (hasn't the flood been proven? It wasn't worldwide like they believed because of limited exposure but I think they have proof of a major flood occurring over there). But I think God was created by man. It does make sense that people would look for an omnipotent explanation.
#11May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 4:47pm
"Adam Larsen, a 32-year-old from Kansas, actually quit his job and gave up his favorite pastime of raccoon hunting to drive around in one of those camper vans to warn everyone the world is ending."
Tee Hee.
#12May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 5:19pmThank God for the raccoons.
#13May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 5:27pm
So what do we think his response will be?
1. Pick a new date?
2. Say it did happen, only it was kinda invisible?
3. Say that because of all the good work his ministry did that God decided to postpone it?
4. Kill himself so he doesn't have to deal with it?
5. Disappear so that he can think that other people think it happened but only he was saved?
#14May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 5:32pmWaiting for Born This Way to officially come out. Buyers will be left behind.
#15May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 5:36pmI think he's either going to kill himself or argue that God's rapture really will come like a thief in the night and that too many people knew about it this time around.
#16May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 5:39pmThe last time he was wrong he didn't seem much bothered.
#17May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 5:54pmWell that's because he claims that he always said if it wasn't 1994, it was going to be 2011.
#18May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 6:14pm
I'd love to know the epidemiology of this belief. I mean, I don't think people just randomly bought this sack of sh*t. What do these people have in common? What was missing from their lives, what need did they have that this answered?
I'm reading stories of people seriously screwing up their lives in preparation for this. I just wonder why.
#19May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 6:38pm
This time he said he was absolutely certain it would happen. Even in 1994 he said he had the backup date of May 2011.
My bet is that him and his wife will kill themselves tonight, when his rapture doesn't happen in California.
#20May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 6:52pm
I think that it gives them something to hang onto... I was reading about one man who said that his wife left him and when he found Harold Camping's radio show he felt like he had somewhere to belong. The opportunity to be with God forever is a thought that scares people but entices them at the same time.
I feel horrible for those who have ruined their lives because of this.
#21May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 6:54pmThe guy you talk about, littlegreen, makes sense to me. What I can't understand is the normal-seeming mom or dad, for example, who has a job and a family, who latches on to this.
Ghandi722
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#22May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 7:03pmI think it is the fear of being left behind that scares people into believing it. It's that small voice at the back of their heads saying 'what if he's right and I didn't listen to him'?
#23May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 7:08pmWell, I wasn't expecting anything rapturous until Thursday, so this doesn't surprise me in the least.
#24May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 7:08pmRight, but most people don't believe it. So why are these people hearing that small voice?
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Joined: 12/31/69
#25May 22 talking points
Posted: 5/21/11 at 7:38pmPredicting that the world will end is nothing compared to a lifetime of preaching about the omnipotent Daddy in Heaven who controls everything. He'll say he added wrong or Jeebus told him they postponed it or some load of crap and people will nod and go on with the pathetic charade of Religion.
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