Mike Huckabee & Bill Maher Discuss Faith

[romantico]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 10:59am

You know, for as much as a wingnut fundie as he is, Huckabee strikes me as level headed enough to have a grown up discussion.For a guy that doesn't believe in evolution, Huckabee comes off as somewhat rational.Actually, he came off better than that. I'm surprised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1O9xTLTBc8

I think my opinion on Huckabee has changed. He comes off as being being fair which makes me wonder how well he will do on Fox.

[javero]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 11:35am

"I think my opinion on Huckabee has changed. He comes off as being being fair which makes me wonder how well he will do on Fox."

O' romantico, that's dangerous bro!

The Huckster could sell an Eskimo a glass of ice water. Gotta admit his show on Fox is one of my guilty pleasures. Each weekend his band improves by leaps and bounds. The real battle 4 yrs out in the GOP primaries will be between Huck and Sarah Palin for the God vote. Please remember that he came in 2nd only to McCain for the party nom this year.

Just imagine his candidacy with the Fox machine backing him. The weekend show gives him a national audience and the perfect forum in which to show his human side away from the campaign trail.

[romantico]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 11:48am

Don't get me wrong I am glad he did not get the nomination and yes, I still think he is very scary. I am judging him by his interview with Bill Maher. I had never seen his show before and didn't even know he had one on Fox.I was just surprised at how rational he was being. I still think of his comments he made about AIDS and homosexuals and that does sit well with me. However, out of all the Fundies, I find him the most tolerable.

[javero]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 12:14pm

"However, out of all the Fundies, I find him the most tolerable."

To me, Huck is the salvation of that network. O'Reilly's viewership has plateaued allowing Olberman to move ahead of him. Fox will have even less access to an Obama-Biden administration than it had to Bush-Cheney.

I foresee Huck nabbing some prime interviews with key Obama cabinet members and White House officials at the expense of those other clowns at Fox, if Obama-Biden are successful. Obama eventually met with O'Reilly on Obama's terms.

The upshot of an Obama-Biden victory will be that Sean Hannity will be forced to drag out Bush 1&2-era retreads like Dick Bennett/Karl Rove and Clinton-turncoat Dick Morris to give his show gravitas because the others are now permanently in hiding or anathema.

Hell, Alberto Gonzales can't even find a job at any law firm or school of note and practically all the major publishing houses have taken a pass on Rumsfeld's memoirs.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 12:16pm

I wonder how well McCain would have done with Huckabee on his ticket. He would still rile up the base, but maybe he would have gotten a few more independents.

I disagree with his politics and his beliefs, but he seems like a decent man.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 1:29pm

No one could be a better salesman than Obama - a latter Elmer Gantry. Buy Change . I cannot show you the product but just believe me as I was sent from heaven to save the country from itself. A few years from now he will have to change his tune as blaming GWB for all the problems he will cause will not cut it.

The problem is that after he is elected many will want a refund & the problem is his wares are non refundable.

[JudasIscariot]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 1:32pm

Well, since the Huck didn't get the nomination like I wished in 2008..

HUCK 2012!

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 2:38pm

Roxy - your mistake is assuming that once he is elected, the hard work will be over.

Most of us realize that the work has just begun, and we need to take back the country one step at a time.

You can sit back and complain, grouse and point fingers all you like. Many of us realize that even if Obama wins, nothing can be achieved without a national commitment of hard work and unification.

If he fails, it will be due in part to those who sat on the sidelines, making snarky comments, while others tried to turn things around.

[romantico]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 2:48pm

I really take my hat off to the Huckster. Here is another interview he did with Richard Dryfus and the man has a chance to bring some civility back and perhaps unite. Not a fan of his politics, but I do like what I am seeing here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDx7yIEBXX4

Fixed it.I was going to make a reference on how the world would react by celebrating an Obama win but posted it in the wrong thread. .

Updated On: 11/2/08 at 02:48 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 2:51pm

Is there a reason you were linking to the end of a Star Wars movie?

[Parks]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 2:53pm

haha, I'm wondering that too...

[emrep]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 6:01pm

The last statement, "He comes off as being being fair which makes me wonder how well he will do on Fox.", shows how warped your way of thinking is, since most of the shows on Fox always provide fair and equal time to both sides. It would help if you actually watched it for a change instead of adding your third side of the story; sometimes the facts in a story are stretched and others they are kept to a minimal to prevent from revealing other facts. An independent poll showed that Fox gave equal coverage, both negative and positive news, about the candidates; more than any other station, which has been brainwashing people like you with negative, insignificant news about certain candidates (you know who they are). The irony is that you say the Fundies are irrational, when it is probably you who are speaking with emotions rather than logic.

[romantico]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 6:04pm

Hey troll, go away! Warped thinking? No, whats warped is someone joining a Broadway message board and then posting their first post about politics. Pathetic idiots like you who play this game weekly. Anyone who thinks Fox is fair and balanced is off their meds! People like you are why relatives should not have sex!Now go away troll and get a life.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 6:18pm

As fair & balanced as Air America was?

[romantico]

Posted: 11/2/08 at 6:26pm

We can play this game all day. Air America prides itself as being a liberal radio station. Fox News will never admit their bias. Why else are they mocked 24/7? Is the New York Post fair Roxy? How about Newsmax? How about Worldnetdaily? I can go on.

[broadwayjim42]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 8:44am

I watched the interviews with both Maher and Dreyfuss last night and the best thing I can say about the Dryefuss interview is that Huckabee let him talk....thereby revealing Dreyfuss and long-winded and pretentious, however noble his "civics" mission may be

As for the Maher interview, I found Huckabee as smarmy and superior as I usually do...there's something about those big puppy dog eyes that make me want to smack the smugness off his face half the time.

As Fox hosts go, he's definitely mellower but still a good little soldier for the Fox cause.

[snl89]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 9:04am

See, now, watching that video I'm actually much more inclined to consider what he's saying than mostly people devout Christians like that. He DOES come across as much more... level headed.

The scary thing, though, is that I'm not so sure his fairness in discussion translates to what he actually believed and does. For all the talk about being open-minded about his faith- he's gung-ho for a ban on gay marriage, isn't he? Maybe if he personally didn't believe in it but was willing to allow others to live their lives the way they chose to live, I'd be more inclined to actually trust him if he ran for Presidential nominee again.

That said, again, he IS a very likable guy. I just think that for all his fair talk, he still seems like your preeeetty typical narrow-minded evangelical as judgment of others go.

[Flippancy]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 9:05am

Speaking as a former Arkansan who had to live under the Huckabee reign as governor:

Be very careful. He and his butch wife are true pieces of work.

Trust on this. Really.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 9:19am

Too bad Bill Maher comes across as such a hypocrite. In this clip, he acts like "I'm not out to mock religion, I'm just asking quesitons. Yet he named the film a combination between religion and ridiculous.

Also he holds up Europe as the model, over 50% atheist. Let's not forget that it was Europe that gave birth to fascism and communism.

[romantico]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 9:25am

Oh Goth! PUH-LEASE! Give it already. Have you sen the film? I have and he does not mock religion at all.Go see the film then comment on it. This way you won't look like a moron babbling about something he knows nothing about.

Yeah Goth we get it. Europe bad, America all good.Isn't it about time for fingerpainting to begin or is that after cookies and milk? You need to take a time out.

Updated On: 11/3/08 at 09:25 AM

[broadwayjim42]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 9:31am

The whole premise of "Religious" is him saying "I don't know" on the subject of organized religion, seeking out answers from so-called religious experts as to why they believe what they do. I thought the film's success was limited by who he had access to, but it didn't set out to bash faith as much as question and criticize what's been done over time in the name of religion as well as basic religious tenets and Biblical stories that, if you don't have the faith to accept them, come off as little more than Aesop's fables.

And yeah, Huckabee's wife looks more like his mother. Kinda like a George and Barbara Bush kinda thing.

[Patronus]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 9:33am

Please remember that he came in 2nd only to McCain for the party nom this year.

Please remember that Romney had a large lead and over Huckabee and suspended his campaign and that Huckabee's 2nd place finish was about as close as San Diego and Vermont.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 9:35am

"I thought the film's success was limited by who he had access to"

You do know that some of the people in the film were misled as to what the intention of the project was.

[romantico]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 10:05am

Goth, did you see the film? Reason I ask is a man walked out right in the middle of Bill's questioning and they kept it in rather than edit it out. Of course, since you know what you are talking about and OBVIOUSLY have seen the film, you knew that,right? Must have just forgot.Oh, and all Bill did was ask questions.How is that misleading?

[broadwayjim42]

Posted: 11/3/08 at 10:13am

My wish is that they'd gotten some more articulate or higher-up-the food chain "experts," particularly in the section dealing with the ex-gay movement. To have someone from Exodus or Focus on the Family's Love Won Out would have been far more effective that the Joe Schmo he does get. But then again, he had to take what he could get.