My big fat Greeked thread — Page 2
#27
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:39pm
I have to ask a serious question:
HDT wrote a PM to me a few weeks ago (some of you said you got something similar/same)
"A friend and I are tying to decide whether or not to come to the city to see Patti Lupone in Gypsy. I would like some advice from you on two points.
1. What have you heard about the production? Do you think it will be great?
2. If we buy seats through a site www.newyorkcitytheatre.com, is it safe?
I hope that you do not feel that my questions are foolish, but if you do, please still try to answer them for me.
I know you are not fond of me, but I would trust your answers on these questions, and I would sincerely appreciate your assistance.
HDT "
This begs the question, was it you writing, HDT, or was Chanticleer asking (since he is the one that actually travelled to NYC)
And if it was Chanticleer148 posting, would that mean that when you said the Chanticleer hasn't been able to post in months was a falsehood? Regardless of whether or not it was under Chanticleer148, he IS/WAS able to post. Right?
So which is it. Was that him posting. Was it you posting. Were you doing his grunt work?
This isn't an attack. I am genuinely curious.
HDT wrote a PM to me a few weeks ago (some of you said you got something similar/same)
"A friend and I are tying to decide whether or not to come to the city to see Patti Lupone in Gypsy. I would like some advice from you on two points.
1. What have you heard about the production? Do you think it will be great?
2. If we buy seats through a site www.newyorkcitytheatre.com, is it safe?
I hope that you do not feel that my questions are foolish, but if you do, please still try to answer them for me.
I know you are not fond of me, but I would trust your answers on these questions, and I would sincerely appreciate your assistance.
HDT "
This begs the question, was it you writing, HDT, or was Chanticleer asking (since he is the one that actually travelled to NYC)
And if it was Chanticleer148 posting, would that mean that when you said the Chanticleer hasn't been able to post in months was a falsehood? Regardless of whether or not it was under Chanticleer148, he IS/WAS able to post. Right?
So which is it. Was that him posting. Was it you posting. Were you doing his grunt work?
This isn't an attack. I am genuinely curious.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#28
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:39pm
I got those too. And answered and he said "thank you for your kindness."
There is no consistencey with the HD "character" and the multiple users behind the character (if we buy that they exist) must be one of the main reasons why.
There is no consistencey with the HD "character" and the multiple users behind the character (if we buy that they exist) must be one of the main reasons why.
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Updated On: 7/28/07 at 05:39 PM
#29
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:45pm
Since neither of you responded to the IM, the real question seems to be why you would rather make it all public. It seems like a person with integrity would have answered me in person. If I had wanted the whole board to know, I would have put out a message to the whole board. Joey tried to embarrass me with the PM by posting it within minutes.
Anyway, I'll still answer your questions.
Chanticleer has not been able to post any comment for months. He did not send the PM, I did. I wanted to go, but it did work out for me. He went with another friend. He already had his tickets. He bought them in early June while in the city.
Chanticleer has not been able to post. Chanticleer has not posted.
Anyway, I'll still answer your questions.
Chanticleer has not been able to post any comment for months. He did not send the PM, I did. I wanted to go, but it did work out for me. He went with another friend. He already had his tickets. He bought them in early June while in the city.
Chanticleer has not been able to post. Chanticleer has not posted.
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
Updated On: 7/28/07 at 05:45 PM
#30
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:46pm
I got one too. And he doesn't like me a my better than he likes the two of you. I assumed he was spreading some sort of virus.
#31
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:47pm
Clinton made a mistake. A big mistake. But his decision to cheat on his wife and take advantage (which personally, given her history I don't buy into) of an intern didn't cost thousands of lives.
And if you think Clinton is the only president to have questionable morals, you have more research to do, HDT.
I can overlook his moral lapse (I would never state that he has none like you) - as can most Americans based on his approval ratings.
I cannot overlook Bush's presidency and what it has done to this country and the world. Sorry. That is might right, my choice and there's really nothing you can say that's going to change my mind.
I'm not saying Bush hasn't done ANYTHING good. That would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I'm just saying that the good hasn't outweighed the bad.
And if you think Clinton is the only president to have questionable morals, you have more research to do, HDT.
I can overlook his moral lapse (I would never state that he has none like you) - as can most Americans based on his approval ratings.
I cannot overlook Bush's presidency and what it has done to this country and the world. Sorry. That is might right, my choice and there's really nothing you can say that's going to change my mind.
I'm not saying Bush hasn't done ANYTHING good. That would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I'm just saying that the good hasn't outweighed the bad.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#32
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:51pm
"I wanted to go, but it did work out for me. He went with another friend.(sic)"
Too bad, you missed an amazing performance.
No disrespect, but I find a trip between someone of your age with a much older former teacher, half-way across the country a bit creepy.
Seriously no disrespect and I am sure it's all on the "up and up" (especially if you all live together at the B&B) - but personally.. I find it creepy.
Too bad, you missed an amazing performance.
No disrespect, but I find a trip between someone of your age with a much older former teacher, half-way across the country a bit creepy.
Seriously no disrespect and I am sure it's all on the "up and up" (especially if you all live together at the B&B) - but personally.. I find it creepy.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#33
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:51pm
Clinton made lots of mistakes. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that he has not been honest with the American people on many occasions.
If you look at the record carefully, you will see that a lot of the good in the Clinton years came after the Republicans took the majority in congress.
Clinton did some good too. His second term was rough.
Bush?
There are many people responsible for the lives lost in the War on Terror. Hillary Clinton is one of them. So is John Edwards.
Notice, no personal attakcs on any poster. No baiting.
If you look at the record carefully, you will see that a lot of the good in the Clinton years came after the Republicans took the majority in congress.
Clinton did some good too. His second term was rough.
Bush?
There are many people responsible for the lives lost in the War on Terror. Hillary Clinton is one of them. So is John Edwards.
Notice, no personal attakcs on any poster. No baiting.
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
#34
"No disrespect, but I find a trip between someone of your age with a much older former teacher, half-way across the country a bit creepy."
I hope that you seriously mean no disrespect. He has been there for me when others have not.
As I said, he went with someone else. I was NOT able to go, and I would have loved it.
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:55pm
"No disrespect, but I find a trip between someone of your age with a much older former teacher, half-way across the country a bit creepy."
I hope that you seriously mean no disrespect. He has been there for me when others have not.
As I said, he went with someone else. I was NOT able to go, and I would have loved it.
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
#35
Posted: 7/28/07 at 5:59pm
Yes, HDTV, you DID PM me.
A few times. I tossed them with the rest of the trash.
So, if YOU didn't PM me, who else has access to your account?
Your falling faster than a kid in a well.
A few times. I tossed them with the rest of the trash.
So, if YOU didn't PM me, who else has access to your account?
Your falling faster than a kid in a well.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#36
Posted: 7/28/07 at 6:07pm
Since neither of you responded to the IM, the real question seems to be why you would rather make it all public...
Just to clarify here, HD, are you including me in the "neither of you" who responded to the PMs you sent? Think quickly and don't check in with anybody else to see what your answer should be.
Just to clarify here, HD, are you including me in the "neither of you" who responded to the PMs you sent? Think quickly and don't check in with anybody else to see what your answer should be.
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#37
Posted: 7/28/07 at 6:25pm
Tick. Tick. Tick.
"Rosalee, get me the RoosEYvelt Hotel in New York City on the line and step on it!"
"Roosevelt Hotel, how may I direct your call?"
"Mark Manley's room, it's an emergency."
"One moment, connecting."
ring ring. ring ring.
"Pick up. Pick UP."
ring ring. ring ring.
"Dammit."
ring ring. ring ring.
"Merde merde merde. I'm gonna have to come up with another straw man to distract them."
ring ring. ring ring. ring ring. ring ring. ring ring. ring ring.
"Rosalee, get me the RoosEYvelt Hotel in New York City on the line and step on it!"
"Roosevelt Hotel, how may I direct your call?"
"Mark Manley's room, it's an emergency."
"One moment, connecting."
ring ring. ring ring.
"Pick up. Pick UP."
ring ring. ring ring.
"Dammit."
ring ring. ring ring.
"Merde merde merde. I'm gonna have to come up with another straw man to distract them."
ring ring. ring ring. ring ring. ring ring. ring ring. ring ring.
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#38
Posted: 7/28/07 at 6:44pm
Cricket
Cricket
Cricket...
Nothing to say, HDTranny?
Cricket
Cricket...
Nothing to say, HDTranny?
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#39
Posted: 7/28/07 at 6:48pm
Just a small town girl, livin in a lonely world
She took the midnight train goin anywhere
Just a city boy, born and raised in south detroit
He took the midnight train goin anywhere
A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on
Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searching in the night
Streetlight people, living just to find emotion
Hiding, somewhere in the night
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
Dont stop believin
Hold on to the feelin
Streetlight people, whoa ohhhhhh
Don't stop --
She took the midnight train goin anywhere
Just a city boy, born and raised in south detroit
He took the midnight train goin anywhere
A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on
Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searching in the night
Streetlight people, living just to find emotion
Hiding, somewhere in the night
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
Dont stop believin
Hold on to the feelin
Streetlight people, whoa ohhhhhh
Don't stop --
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#40
Posted: 7/28/07 at 7:05pm
No calls should be needed if either party still has those messages (either in their in box or sent box)
Just sayin'
Just sayin'
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#41
Posted: 7/28/07 at 8:32pm
TheatreDiva, that's an insult to upstanding trannies everywhere.
#42
Posted: 7/28/07 at 8:44pm
Got that right, Plum. Though TD knows a good tranny when he sees one.
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#43
Posted: 7/28/07 at 8:46pm
There is no way that I pm'd """diva"""
I notice no one is willing to take me me up on my offer. (no personal attacks)
Namo, I get from your script that you called the wrong person again.
That is very, very funny.
I notice no one is willing to take me me up on my offer. (no personal attacks)
Namo, I get from your script that you called the wrong person again.
That is very, very funny.
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
#44
Posted: 7/28/07 at 8:50pm
You didn't answer my question. Were you saying that I never answered your PMs?
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#45
Posted: 7/28/07 at 8:50pm
I'm looking give me a minute.
BUT, are you willing to go without personally attacking me for one week?
BUT, are you willing to go without personally attacking me for one week?
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
#46
Posted: 7/28/07 at 8:53pm
Hey """"Diva""""
Sound familiar?
This is what you PM'd ME...
You sound like an interesting person.
Do you have to be so personal in all of your attacks?
Do the moderators allow you to get away with it?
Sound familiar?
This is what you PM'd ME...
You sound like an interesting person.
Do you have to be so personal in all of your attacks?
Do the moderators allow you to get away with it?
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
#47
Posted: 7/28/07 at 9:06pm
I'm looking give me a minute.
BUT, are you willing to go without personally attacking me for one week?
Oh for godssakes. You really should stick to one person using your account, or one of your multiple personalities until you manage to integrate them into one whole person.
Don't bother looking them up, I'll reprint them for you right here. You might find them interesting, since apparently you had nothing to do with them. You might also understand why your promises of swearing off personal attacks rings terribly hollow. The very morning after our exchange, reprinted below, I opened a thread on the main board to find you attacking me, as if none of these exchanges happened.
At the time I thought that you were one seriously messed up individual. Now you have to LOOK?
When "you" first PMed me, I remember thinking "Why the hell shouldn't I just dump this jerk's PM in the trash?" But I opened it and thought, "Oh hell, what matters more is how people are in private than they are in public." So the exchanges reprinted below happened.
The next day when I saw "you" attacking me, I thought, "No, with THIS individual, what matters is what he does in public." Sucking up to me in private. Bowing and scraping before me as you thanked me for my kindness.
So, you'll understand why I don't believe any of your promises, or proposed barganing agreements. "You" are a fraud and a phony and nothing "you" promise can happen anyway, since "you" aren't on top of what "you" write and PM anyway.
I reserve the right to call you out on your actions as I see fit. You will continue to whine about it, say you're being treated unfairly. I maintain that nothing I have ever written about "you" is untrue.
And now, THE HD PMs TO THE "EVIL AND HORRIBLE" NAMO:
Round 1
Please Help from HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 10:52:43 AM
A friend and I are tying to decide whether or not to come to the city to see Patti Lupone in Gypsy. I would like some advice from you on two points.
1. What have you heard about the production? Do you think it will be great?
2. If we buy seats through a site www.newyorkcitytheatre.com, is it safe?
I hope that you do not feel that my questions are foolish, but if you do, please still try to answer them for me.
I know you are not fond of me, but I would trust your answers on these questions, and I would sincerely appreciate your assistance.
HDT
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 05:47:23 PM
I actually don't have any info about it at all. Sorry. My friends who saw Patti do it at Ravinia loved it
Round 2
re: Please Help from HDThoreau2 on 7/5/07 @ 05:50:45 PM Do you know anything at all about buying tickets from nytheatre? Thanks for your kindness. hdt
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 05:54:44 PM
Never used them. I think they're reputable but I don't know for sure.
Round 3
re: Please Help from HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:11:52 PM
Thank you again for taking your time to respond.
Do you plan to see Gypsy?
hdt
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:24:13 PM
It's sacrilege to say but I just don't like the show well enough to go. I never grasped why so many think it's "perfect" but people like what they like, I guess.
Round 4
re: Please Help from HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:43:28 PM
Gypsy is a great show. I am not surprised that we disagree, but it is not a sacrilege for you to say that you do not like it. It's more like heresy. (I am making a joke)
I read your comment on the thread that Joey started about my email message. I needed an answer, and I figured you guys would know.
Thanks again for taking your time to help me.
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:47:04 PM
I understand it's a great show, I even get "why" it's a great show, but I just don't connect to it. At this point the thought of sitting through another production of it just feels like work.
I'll probably kick myself for missing it someday, but that wouldn't be the first time either.
It went on for one more round. Readers can see that I tried to cut it short off the bat but "HD" kept responding. And I thought, "Hell, I've fought with folks on here like cats and dogs and many of them and I no longer fight. So anything's possible." Obviously, the day after all this that I came online to BWW to find "HD" going on the attack with both barrels proved to be the last day I will EVER do such a thing again.
Whichever "one" of "you" blew it, blew it. So, NO. No promises at all to stop calling you the faker and the phoney that you are.
BUT, are you willing to go without personally attacking me for one week?
Oh for godssakes. You really should stick to one person using your account, or one of your multiple personalities until you manage to integrate them into one whole person.
Don't bother looking them up, I'll reprint them for you right here. You might find them interesting, since apparently you had nothing to do with them. You might also understand why your promises of swearing off personal attacks rings terribly hollow. The very morning after our exchange, reprinted below, I opened a thread on the main board to find you attacking me, as if none of these exchanges happened.
At the time I thought that you were one seriously messed up individual. Now you have to LOOK?
When "you" first PMed me, I remember thinking "Why the hell shouldn't I just dump this jerk's PM in the trash?" But I opened it and thought, "Oh hell, what matters more is how people are in private than they are in public." So the exchanges reprinted below happened.
The next day when I saw "you" attacking me, I thought, "No, with THIS individual, what matters is what he does in public." Sucking up to me in private. Bowing and scraping before me as you thanked me for my kindness.
So, you'll understand why I don't believe any of your promises, or proposed barganing agreements. "You" are a fraud and a phony and nothing "you" promise can happen anyway, since "you" aren't on top of what "you" write and PM anyway.
I reserve the right to call you out on your actions as I see fit. You will continue to whine about it, say you're being treated unfairly. I maintain that nothing I have ever written about "you" is untrue.
And now, THE HD PMs TO THE "EVIL AND HORRIBLE" NAMO:
Round 1
Please Help from HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 10:52:43 AM
A friend and I are tying to decide whether or not to come to the city to see Patti Lupone in Gypsy. I would like some advice from you on two points.
1. What have you heard about the production? Do you think it will be great?
2. If we buy seats through a site www.newyorkcitytheatre.com, is it safe?
I hope that you do not feel that my questions are foolish, but if you do, please still try to answer them for me.
I know you are not fond of me, but I would trust your answers on these questions, and I would sincerely appreciate your assistance.
HDT
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 05:47:23 PM
I actually don't have any info about it at all. Sorry. My friends who saw Patti do it at Ravinia loved it
Round 2
re: Please Help from HDThoreau2 on 7/5/07 @ 05:50:45 PM Do you know anything at all about buying tickets from nytheatre? Thanks for your kindness. hdt
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 05:54:44 PM
Never used them. I think they're reputable but I don't know for sure.
Round 3
re: Please Help from HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:11:52 PM
Thank you again for taking your time to respond.
Do you plan to see Gypsy?
hdt
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:24:13 PM
It's sacrilege to say but I just don't like the show well enough to go. I never grasped why so many think it's "perfect" but people like what they like, I guess.
Round 4
re: Please Help from HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:43:28 PM
Gypsy is a great show. I am not surprised that we disagree, but it is not a sacrilege for you to say that you do not like it. It's more like heresy. (I am making a joke)
I read your comment on the thread that Joey started about my email message. I needed an answer, and I figured you guys would know.
Thanks again for taking your time to help me.
re: Please Help to HDThoreau2
on 7/5/07 @ 07:47:04 PM
I understand it's a great show, I even get "why" it's a great show, but I just don't connect to it. At this point the thought of sitting through another production of it just feels like work.
I'll probably kick myself for missing it someday, but that wouldn't be the first time either.
It went on for one more round. Readers can see that I tried to cut it short off the bat but "HD" kept responding. And I thought, "Hell, I've fought with folks on here like cats and dogs and many of them and I no longer fight. So anything's possible." Obviously, the day after all this that I came online to BWW to find "HD" going on the attack with both barrels proved to be the last day I will EVER do such a thing again.
Whichever "one" of "you" blew it, blew it. So, NO. No promises at all to stop calling you the faker and the phoney that you are.
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Updated On: 7/28/07 at 09:06 PM
#48
Posted: 7/28/07 at 9:10pm
No, HDTV,
YOU started PMing ME first:
Since I emptied my trash, I don’t have the messages you sent me, but from my out box, You can see my replies to you.
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:08:05 PM
Why are you PMing me?
***You said something like, ‘I’m a #1 kind of guy’***
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:13:55 PM
Well then, YOU ARE #1!
And I bet you can tell what finger I'm holding up.
***You said something about, ‘Wanting to be friends’***
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:19:19 PM
Like I believe ANYTHING you have to say.
What IS your primary malfunction? ,sp>
***I don’t remember what brought on this comment, but it must have been something stupid you said:***
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:41:47 PM
I was just thinking of you.
But then again, I just farted and the whole room stinks now.
YOU started PMing ME first:
Since I emptied my trash, I don’t have the messages you sent me, but from my out box, You can see my replies to you.
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:08:05 PM
Why are you PMing me?
***You said something like, ‘I’m a #1 kind of guy’***
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:13:55 PM
Well then, YOU ARE #1!
And I bet you can tell what finger I'm holding up.
***You said something about, ‘Wanting to be friends’***
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:19:19 PM
Like I believe ANYTHING you have to say.
What IS your primary malfunction?
***I don’t remember what brought on this comment, but it must have been something stupid you said:***
re: Greetings to HDThoreau2
on 6/25/07 @ 07:41:47 PM
I was just thinking of you.
But then again, I just farted and the whole room stinks now.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#49
Posted: 7/28/07 at 9:13pm
Namo...
""I reserve the right to call you out on your actions as I see fit. You will continue to whine about it, say you're being treated unfairly. I maintain that nothing I have ever written about "you" is untrue.""
You do not have the ability to "call me out" on anything. Your comments only come across as bitter and nasty.
I am trying with you even though you have been nothing but angry and demeaning toward me other than on those PM's.
I am still willing to try.
""I reserve the right to call you out on your actions as I see fit. You will continue to whine about it, say you're being treated unfairly. I maintain that nothing I have ever written about "you" is untrue.""
You do not have the ability to "call me out" on anything. Your comments only come across as bitter and nasty.
I am trying with you even though you have been nothing but angry and demeaning toward me other than on those PM's.
I am still willing to try.
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
#50
Posted: 7/28/07 at 9:14pm
"""diva"""
You pm'd me first picking a fight.
You did a good job fabricating the rest of that stuff.
You pm'd me first picking a fight.
You did a good job fabricating the rest of that stuff.
If Tom DeLay is The Hammer, then I proclaim a new title for the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi: The Briber. Nancy Pelosi had to bribe her members with spinach to get their votes.
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