NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

#1

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/9/14 at 7:02pm

Attacker still at large, but video surveillance caught him

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#2

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 1:42am

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/man-left-critical-condition-punched-face-midtown-street-cops-article-1.1859947

A better pix of the assailant. Heinous crime. Sucker punch. To all my hell's kitchen peeps. Keep an eye out. Of course, he might dye his hair

#3

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 6:14am

Terrible.

But that footage is very clear and you get a good look at the assailant from several sides so I'm sure he'll be caught.

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#4

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 7:09am

He's caught

#5

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 8:09am

That's a...weird article.

#6

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 8:24am

Not bad enough his boyfriend is near death, the papers have to refer to him as stocky!

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#7

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 8:35am

The article is dripping with couched homophobia, from "blond bruiser" to virtually convicting the victim, to Martone's boyfriend "trembling" at the end.

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#8

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 9:09am

I was thinking the exact same thing, PJ.

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#9

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 9:31am

I saw that article yesterday and was infuriated.

#10

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 9:42am

Yup the article is horrible. Not surprising since it's from the NY Post.
Unfortunately at the time I posted it it was the only link I could find that said anything about the guy being in custody.

#11

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 10:16am

A non-slimey article about the incident

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#12

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 10:53am

I feel terrible the victim is in critical condition but it's VERY difficult to understand what happened here from all three of those "articles." The first one very clearly refers to "surveillance" footage, but is obviously a cell phone video.

I understand the inherent danger of stepping into something like this, but video taping and not calling 911 is bizarre.

I know I'll get flack for this, but are we comfortable with this: "The dog owner asked the suspect why he stepped over the dog, and then pushed or shoved him when he tried to walk away."

I love dogs, but I cannot tell you how many times I've gotten caught up in leashes trying to navigate the busy sidewalks.

Violence sucks.

#13

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 11:00am

I really don't understand why it's wrong to step over a dog.

God forbid should my baby Jezebel get in someone's way, I pray that they step over her!

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#14

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 11:07am

I cant see why this is the puncher's fault if the dog walker pushed him first. I often give owners glares when their dog leashes impede me from walking down the sidewalk...much like the stroller pushers who think of babies as steam rollers.

Judge Judy would throw this out, if he was pushed. Also, it doesn't look like a "sucker punch" to me.

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#15

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 11:07am

"violence sucks"

It really, really does.

There are a lot of us--pedestrians, dog-walkers, stroller-pushers, joggers, cyclists, drivers, counterfeit-Vuitton-and-Hermes-leather-goods-salespeople--trying to occupy a very limited amount of real-estate. I wish everyone would take a deep breath and show a little empathy and forebearance.

Singing Kumbaya is probably asking too much, although I do think it would help...

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#16

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 11:15am

I wouldn't think twice about someone stepping over my dog, especially on the streets of Manhattan. I certainly wouldn't ask the person why they stepped over my dog. I'd just shake my head and walk on. Looking at the video it seems the "victim" followed the guy into the street to ask him "why?" and according to the article the "victim" pushed him first. Sorry, but once you lay your hands on another person you should brace yourself for a fight. Perhaps that's just the City in me?

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#17

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 11:23am

My reaction to someone having to step over my dog would be "Sorry about that, he's a handful."

"Conflictations" as my boyfriend calls them can escalate so fast in NYC, you never know when someone is having a bad day and this HEAT! As Addison says take a deep breath. Life is so precious.

"I cant see why this is the puncher's fault if the dog walker pushed him first."

It's interesting how not examining the whole picture can erase the fact that it was self-defense. Even the fleeing part. I imagine this would even fall under stand-your-ground in FL.

#18

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 11:36am

I'll let the small dog owners weigh in with what it feels like to have people walk over your dog, but I'm on board with those who are perplexed at the notion that the dog walker (allegedly) felt compelled to assault someone for stepping over his dog.

From that initial act, it seems like a fast-moving train--a violent response with an unfortunate result (cracked skull), followed by a panicked flight.

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#19

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 11:56am

I agree with all of the above. I don't think we have enough information to make a judgment call.

Either way, it's good that the guy was apprehended. Hopefully the truth will come out and justice served, whatever that is.

#20

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 12:09pm

I am going to use the punch video as an object lesson for my boyfriend, who one returned from a dog walk in a murderous rage because after the dog barked at a passing motorcycle, the biker revved the loud engine and freaked the dog out more. He actually said he would have killed the guy if he could have.

I tried to spin it as the guy warning the dog that motorcycles are dangerous but the bf would have none of it. The thing is, the dog was over the whole thing mere moments after it happened. I'm sure Peanut was too and would probably rather have its daddy home than in critical condition for defending Peanut's space.

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#21

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 1:51pm

yeah, that's HIM.https://www.facebook.com/cpohan?fref=browse_search

http://www.meetup.com/New-York-Social-Sail/members/18045061/

Updated On: 7/10/14 at 01:51 PM

#22

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 1:55pm

Everyone is rushing to blame the victims here, assuming that the police report's phrase "stepping over the dog" implies no threat. But police reports go for a kind of neutral language and can often misrepresent events.

The bottom line here is that someone assaulted someone, and that is a crime. Right now the gay guy is in the hospital, and the stsigt guy with a pattern of violence--who bolted out if a police vehicle--is being given a pass by some of the media and sine in this thread.

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#23

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 2:11pm

I don't see anyone blaming the victim, much less rushing to do it. And as I said, I don't think we have enough info to make a judgment.

All people have said is that IF as has been reported, the guy in the hospital followed and then shoved the other person, then he may bear some responsibility for what followed.

I didn't see any shove in the video. There may be other evidence, including eyewitnesses.

#24

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 2:12pm

If the "victim" was the person to initiate physical conflict and engagement with either a push or shove, the response from the "suspect" is self defense. By the book self defense.

Assuming that is the true story, I imagine a Jury would rule in his favor. Despite what might be morally right or wrong.

#25

NYC Eagle Bartender in Critical Condition After Attack

Posted: 7/10/14 at 2:15pm

I agree that trying to escape the police car is really odd--not to say stupid. But, PJ, where do you get the information bout Pohan's sexual orientation and violent past? (Not saying either is untrue; I just haven't seen it anywhere.)