No talking on the jitney!!- Page 2
No talking on the jitney!!
#25re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 3:43pm
i think as an alternative to the "no talking" rule, anyone who talks on a cell phone would be dragged out by their hair and shot in full view of other passengers.
i love joe and i don't care who knows it, dammit!
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#26re: No talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 3:45pm
"Now, folks are too lazy to make their plans ahead of time, they just figure they'll call when they feel like it."
I hope that wasn't in reference to me, who has been working and out of touch for the past month and couldn't make plans til I got back! Don't be so harsh to judge.
While cell phones can be annoying and people who scream into them are horrible to listen to, some of us talk quietly so that everyone will not overhear our conversation. And my basic human rights of freedom of speech are gone when someone says that I can't use my phone because even though I am quiet, other people are loud and therefore ruin it for everyone.
JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#27re: No talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 3:59pm
"And my basic human rights of freedom of speech are gone when someone says that I can't use my phone because even though I am quiet, other people are loud and therefore ruin it for everyone."
What about other peoples basic human rights of not having to listen to someone else's conversation in an enclosed enviroment where they can't get away from it??
It's a good rule and one that should be put in place everywhere. Resturants, bars, theatres, Doctor's offices, all forms of public transportation. Since there used to be smoking and non-smoking sections in resturants and airplanes...maybe it's time to have cell and non-cell sections in public spaces. Because it seems simple consideration for the people around you know longer seems to work.
Yes, there are exceptions to the rule...emergencies of course, but planning your weekend...or what you're having for dinner...or what movie you want to rent doesn't count.
#28re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:12pm
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
it makes me sick when stupid people expressing their desire to proclaim their own idocy cry "freedom of speech" at the drop of a hat when such freedom applies to their case almost as much as the words hairy and swarthy apply to robbiej.
anyone guilty of such offenses have demonstrated their rampant stupidity and obvious ego trouble and it's clear that before they are dragged off the jitney by their hair and shot in front of the other passengers that their phone should first be inserted deeply into their colon along with a copy of the bill of rights which they seem to have learned existed while watching a repeat of an old law & order between bong hits.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#29re: No talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:14pm
Liotte,
You make a good point, but how many people are truly conscientious regarding the people within earshot. I for one won't answer my phone on the Metro, in a restaurant or if I'm with another person.
How many times do I see two people out to eat and one of them is chattering away on their phone while the other person is sitting there looking dumbfounded.
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Joined: 12/31/69
#30re: No talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:19pm
Talking on a cell phone is like Peeing-- maybe you have to do it, but you DON'T have to do it in front of me!
#31re: No talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:22pm
I don't answer my phone when I am with another person, or in a restaurant, or a movie, or a show, or any place like that.
However, 4 hours on a bus- and if I am talking quietly? I think that should be allowed. The driver and the woman making all the rules were talking loudly to each other the entire trip. I would have been much quieter on my phone. People who do not wish to hear conversations can wear earplugs, listen to music, or drive a car instead of taking public transportation where they will be subject to other people and their noise. If you take public transportation, noise is just one of the things you need to deal with.
And papa, I don't appreciate being called stupid for using the Freedom of Speech argument. While I have my opinions of when I should be allowed to use my cell phone, not once have I said anything negative to those people who have suggested that I am dragged out by my hair, shot, had my phone inserted into various body cavities, etc. And for the record, I do not smoke, and I do not watch Law and Order.
#32re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:25pmwhy liotte, whatever would make you think i was talking about you? i don't think i ever made a specific reference to anyone in particular. hmmmm, that ego thing...
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#33re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:29pmAnother scarey proposition is the possible use of cell phones on airplanes!!! Ugh!! Can you imagine the "air-rage" that would take place?
#34re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 4:54pm
Airplanes have enforced rules about no cell phone use because it interferes with the signals the pilots need in order to fly the plane.
But while the plane is parked at the gate, and people are on their phones, most everyone attempts to speak quietly and not disturb others around them. I would much rather hear soft mufflings of phone conversations than the usual screaming baby that tends to disturb passengers.
And again, if you do not like noise created by cell phones or other people- drive your own car to your destination so as to avoid disturbances, don't go out to public places. Stay in your house if you like peace and quiet all the time.
#35re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 5:11pm
Airplanes currently have regulations in place that prohibit the use of cell phones once in the air, but this just might become a thing of the past. Can't quote any resources off the top of my head, but this has been discussed in the media.
I don't thing one needs to hole themselves up inside if they want peace and quiet, but I am for people being aware of their surroundings when they're doing things.
etoile
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/2/03
#36re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 5:31pmI look to see more restrictions on cell phone use around all means of transportation, especially given their ability to trigger detonators of explosive devices.
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Joined: 12/31/69
#37re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 6:53pm
I was convinced that the bottle of red wine sitting on my table would explode if the young woman sitting next to me in the small and crowded restaurant didn't get off her mobile phone. That's why I poured my glass of wine over her head after she repeatedly engaged in mobile phone conversations.
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JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#39re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 11:27pm
"And again, if you do not like noise created by cell phones or other people- drive your own car to your destination so as to avoid disturbances, don't go out to public places. Stay in your house if you like peace and quiet all the time. "
Wow...talk about being self-concerned, self-centered, and just plain selfish.
Has it ever occured to you that people using public forms of transportation use them because that's the only form of transportation that is available to them? Here in NYC...which is where I assume you live since you were travelling to the Hampton's, the number people who do not have their own cars far out numbers those who do. My question to you is why don't you drive your own car...to where ever it is you're headed...then you can talk on your cellphone without the risk of having your first amendment rights trampled, unless of course you're not using a hands-free device and get arrested. Or is the reason you were taking a jitney in the 1st place, because you don't have a car either?
Your sense of entitlement is extraordinary.
#40re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/29/05 at 11:58pm
The same applies to me- public transportation is the form of transportation that I use. I live in the city, I don't have a car, and getting around the city on public transport is better for the environment and just easier. And when I do drive, I prefer to be paying attention the road and do not talk on my phone. When someone else is driving (say, a bus driver or train driver), I can talk on my phone freely without worrying about the road conditions.
Yes, I feel that I have a sense of entitlement to use my phone when I want. I do not speak loudly and disturb others, and if I did see people who were bothered by me, I'd move away or if I was in an enclosed space, I would end my conversation. I felt that on the jitney, I was punished without doing anything wrong.
And in regards to the people staying in their houses if they don't like noise- when I walk out my apartment door, there is so much noise on the street of NYC, one person on the phone will not make a difference. 1000 people won't matter. Noise is part of life. Should all the cars stop driving because they are noisy? Wait, that bird flying over my head just chirped, someone shoot it!! I bet when you are walking down the street talking to a friend right next to you, you are louder than I ever am on the phone, as I do make an effort not to be overheard and annoying to those around me. Stop judging me for using a cell phone and saying that I am self-centered and selfish. You can ask the people on this board who have met me, I am definitely not the criminal you all are making me out to be.
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#41re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/30/05 at 12:05am
liotte, i say this as someone who likes you...i have no doubt that you were respectful and mindful of others sitting around you. however, you'll never convince the folks in this thread that you were in the right relative to the use on your phone on the jitney. defending your actions appears futile.
put the phone down. hehehe
#42re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/30/05 at 12:14am
*sigh*
I know, Jose', but I don't like being attacked and insulted by people who don't know me and judge me solely because I use a cell phone. Guess we all will just have to agree to disagree.
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JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#44re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/30/05 at 12:31am
"Yes, I feel that I have a sense of entitlement to use my phone when I want. I do not speak loudly and disturb others, and if I did see people who were bothered by me, I'd move awayYes, I feel that I have a sense of entitlement to use my phone when I want. I do not speak loudly and disturb others, and if I did see people who were bothered by me, I'd move away or if I was in an enclosed space, I would end my conversation. I felt that on the jitney, I was punished without doing anything wrong.
I felt that on the jitney, I was punished without doing anything wrong."
How do you know that you do not disturb others? Has someone come up to you while you were on your phone and said "you're not disturbing me." Just because no one has never said anything to you doesn't mean you haven't disturbed someone.
So..let's take your jitney trip to it's logical conclusion. If you were allowed to talk on your cell-phone then everyone else should be allowed to talk on their cell-phones, no matter how loudly or softly they talked. One person's soft conversation may seem exceeding loud to someone else...who makes the rules...do we carry a decible meter...anyone that exceeds a certain limit has their phone taken from them. Obviously there have been problems on the jitney with cell-phone conversations...the only equitable way to solve the problem is to say no cell-phones to everyone, thereby alleviating the problem.
In your above quote you said "... or if I was in an enclosed space, I would end my conversation." I don't know about you, but I think the jitney qualifies as an enclosed space.
Next, you said "I felt that on the jitney, I was punished without doing anything wrong." You weren't punished, you were asked to follow the rules. Simply asking someone to follow the rules is not punishment.
Finally, you said "Stop judging me for using a cell phone and saying that I am self-centered and selfish. You can ask the people on this board who have met me, I am definitely not the criminal you all are making me out to be."
I don't believe anyone in this thread has called you a criminal, I would say, however, that you've got a pretty good persecution complex going.
#45re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/30/05 at 12:33amI don't know what a "persecution complex" is.
JustAGuy
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
#46re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/30/05 at 12:39am
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
A persecution complex is a term given to an array of psychologically complex behaviours, that specifically deals with the perception of being persecuted, for various possible reasons.
In this case...the fact that you couldn't use your cell-phone when you wanted to, and felt you were being punished because of it.
#47re: no talking on the jitney!!
Posted: 7/30/05 at 12:47amYes, that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying.
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