Oklahoma Rep: “[Homosexuality] is the biggest threat...more than terrorism.- Page 3

[romantico]

Posted: 3/11/08 at 6:55pm

UPDATE!

http://newsok.com/article/3214388/1205171042

http://perezhilton.com/2008-03-11-oklahoma-republicans-support-hatemonger

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 9:14am

(from above linked NewsOK.com article)

Kern vows not to apologize for remarks against homosexuals

Thousands have sent e-mails criticizing state Rep. Sally Kern for comments that were posted on the Internet in which she calls homosexuality "the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam," the legislator said today.

"The homosexual agenda is destroying this nation; it's just a fact," Kern is heard saying on a YouTube audio segment posted Friday.

"I honestly think it's the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam," Kern is heard saying on the Web site.

The Cimarron Alliance Foundation, an Oklahoma City-based group, has sent a letter to House Speaker Chris Benge stating that Kern, R-Oklahoma City, "must apologize or be censured by the House of Representatives."

Benge, R-Tulsa, has no comment on the letter, his spokeswoman said today.

Kern said today she does not plan to apologize nor does she think her fellow legislators would censure her.

Kern, R-Oklahoma City, said she has received more than 3,000 critical e-mails and hundreds of angry phone calls since her comments were posted on YouTube late last week.

Kern, a former social studies teacher in the Oklahoma City School District, said the e-mails to her office often have been vulgar.

"I heard what you said and you should be killed ... along with George W. Bush!" read one e-mail sent to Kern. "Christianity is the cancer in our society and should be eliminated."

The Cimarron Alliance Foundation issued a posting today on its Web site asking people not to send hate mail to Kern.

Kern said she told a gathering outside the Capitol recently about efforts by gay rights groups to target conservatives in recent elections.

"I said nothing that was not true, I said nothing out of hate and I don't believe my colleagues will censure me," Kern said today.

"I was speaking about the homosexual activists who are aggressively funding pro-homosexual candidates against conservative Republicans," Kern said. "In 2006, they targeted conservatives across the nation, mostly at the state and local levels. They took out 50 of them."

Kern said she was talking to "grassroots individuals who are Republicans."

Someone apparently taped her comments and they ended up on YouTube, sparking reaction from across the country.

"Representative Kern's secretive hate words made to a small group of about 50 people are now being heard and judged by millions of Americans," wrote Richard Ogden, chairman of the Cimarron Alliance Foundation. "These words are on YouTube and millions more Americans will hear her hateful words."

Kern often has opposed homosexuality

Kern has not been shy in her criticism of homosexuality during her nearly four years as a state legislator.

Elected to the House in 2004, Kern has led efforts to block state funding for libraries that did not segregate books with homosexual or sexually explicit material from children's sections. She also proposed a measure that would have allowed teachers across the state to teach a range of scientific views on the theory of evolution.

Neither measure passed.

[iluvcioffiiluvtea23]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 9:17am

I hate her.

[Calvin]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 9:34am

She's just pissed because she has to live in Oklahoma, a big dusty craphole (a fact that John Steinbeck was wise enough to point out about 70 years ago). The state tried like hell to prevent itself from having to recognize out-of-state gay adoptions until a federal court called them on their idiocy. Plus, it's given us two of the most batsh*t crazy senators around -- Tom Coburn and Jim Inhofe.

A Tom Coburn quote:
The gay community has infiltrated the very centers of power in every area across this country, and they wield extreme power... That agenda is the greatest threat to our freedom that we face today. Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That's a gay agenda.

No different than what Kern said, really. And this is a guy voted for by the entire freaking state. Inhofe, meanwhile, is just as vile and was the one who boasted on the senate floor that there has never been a homosexual in his family -- ever.

[D2]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 9:50am

My email to Ms: Kern:

New York City, March 12, 2008

Dear Ms. Kern;

I am a human being, first and foremost. I have no agenda, other than paying my bills, working at a job I enjoy, and loving the same man for the past 15 years and for the rest of my life.

I don't understand how that terrorizes you. You're human too.

[Elphaba]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 2:49pm

except that she is not human, D2......she is Satan personified, hiding under the cloak of religion.....

Updated On: 3/12/08 at 02:49 PM

[D2]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 3:55pm

She is a human being, Elph. I didn't say she was an outstanding human being, or even a good human being. But for me to say that she isn't human would mean that I am stooping to her level. I have too much class for that.

[nitsua]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 4:11pm

Elphaba: Your comment kinda proves her point. Calling her Satan personified isn't going to help.

My email pretty much said the same thing. Something along the lines of, "My boyfriend and I are gay and we're in an honest, loving relationship. How does that terrorize you?"

"I have too much class for that."

Amen to that!

Hate mail isn't going to make the situation better. It's going to prove her point.

[Elphaba]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 5:07pm

actually guys, what I say on this message board doesn't prove her point, and does not matter.......what I say in a letter to her, or say a newspaper where I can be sited, does.

W'll just have to agree to disagree

and believe me D2 I could say much worse, and I don't consider it stooping to any level....it's simply saying wht I believe to be the truth of her

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 5:12pm

yes, elphaba, your posts here cause cancer, kill baby seals and lose the war for the allies.

[Elphaba]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 5:14pm

which, of course, doesn't matter is we gays seem to be the real problem with America, lol

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 5:29pm

that was the first title of the star wars movie: the gay menace.

[romantico]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 6:55pm

*****UPDATE*****
Apparently she has a GAY SON! Ah yes, its all beginning to make sense now.

http://perezhilton.com/2008-03-12-sallys-secrets

Doesn't Anita Bryant have a gay son as well? The bitch also lied about receiving death threats as well.

Updated On: 3/12/08 at 06:55 PM

[Pippin]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 6:55pm

so, this may be taken with grain of salt, but Perezhilton is reporting that Kern's own son is what?







GAY!!!!!

[nitsua]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 8:06pm

Now where are his Manhunt photos?!

I want proof.

[MrMidwest]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 9:06pm

Phyllis Schlafly's son also likes sausage, romantico.

[romantico]

Posted: 3/12/08 at 9:37pm

They sound like disgruntled Mothers who have a chip on their shoulders. I hope all their sons wash their hands of these women and speak out.

Sally Kern has disowned her gay son. Ah, what a typical christian she is.

http://www.queerty.com/sally-kern-scrubs-gay-son-20080312/

Ellen spoke of this earlier.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HBzTWcTwJJM

Updated On: 3/12/08 at 09:37 PM

[pab]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 1:31am

"OKLAHOMA CITY -- The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation is sorting through nearly 7,000 e-mails that were sent to a state lawmaker after she said homosexuality is a bigger threat to the United States than terrorism.

Comments by Rep. Sally Kern, recorded several weeks ago but placed on the Internet site YouTube only late last week, have caused a national outcry, resulting in more than 500,000 hits on the Web site.

A fellow lawmaker contacted the OSBI on Monday and suggested that agents go through the e-mails, some of which might be threatening, OSBI spokeswoman Jessica Brown said.

Kern said Monday that she had not received death threats. On Tuesday, she said, "It's changed," but she did not elaborate.

Brown said Tuesday, "There are a lot of e-mails to the representative that say, 'You ought to die,' rather than, 'I am going to kill you.' "
The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation is reading Kern e-mails

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 1:44am

Thanks, Ellen, for saying, essentially, nothing.

[romantico]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 7:02am

Just found this incredibly moving letter over at Pam's - well worth the read (box of tissues suggested)


Rep Kern:

On April 19, 1995, in Oklahoma City a terrorist detonated a bomb that killed my mother and 167 others. 19 children died that day. Had I not had the chicken pox that day, the body count would've likely have included one more. Over 800 other Oklahomans were injured that day and many of those still suffer through their permanent wounds.

That terrorist was neither a homosexual or was he involved in Islam. He was an extremist Christian forcing his views through a body count. He held his beliefs and made those who didn't live up to them pay with their lives.

As you were not a resident of Oklahoma on that day, it could be explained why you so carelessly chose words saying that the homosexual agenda is worst than terrorism. I can most certainly tell you through my own experience that is not true. I am sure there are many people in your voting district that laid a loved one to death after the terrorist attack on Oklahoma City. I kind of doubt you'll find one of them that will agree with you.

I was five years old when my mother died. I remember what a beautiful, wise, and remarkable woman she was. I miss her. Your harsh words and misguided beliefs brought me to tears, because you told me that my mother's killer was a better person than a group of people that are seeking safety and tolerance for themselves.

As someone left motherless and victimized by terrorists, I say to you very clearly you are absolutely wrong.

You represent a district in Oklahoma City and you very coldly express a lack of love, sympathy or understanding for what they've been through. Can I ask if you might have chosen wiser words were you a real Oklahoman that was here to share the suffering with Oklahoma City? Might your heart be a bit less cold had you been around to see the small bodies of children being pulled out of rubble and carried away by weeping firemen?

I've spent 12 years in Oklahoma public schools and never once have I had anyone try to force a gay agenda on me. I have seen, however, many gay students beat up and there's never a day in school that has went by when I haven't heard the word **** slung at someone. I've been called gay slurs many times and they hurt and I am not even gay so I can just imagine how a real gay person feels. You were a school teacher and you have seen those things too. How could you care so little about the suffering of some of your students?

Let me tell you the result of your words in my school. Every openly gay and suspected gay in the school were having to walk together Monday for protection. They looked scared. They've already experienced enough hate and now your words gave other students even more motivation to sneer at them and call them names. Afterall, you are a teacher and a lawmaker, many young people have taken your words to heart. That happens when you assume a role of responsibility in your community. I seriously think before this week ends that some kids here will be going home bruised and bloody because of what you said.

I wish you could've met my mom. Maybe she could've guided you in how a real Christian should be acting and speaking.

I have not had a mother for nearly 13 years now and wonder if there were fewer people like you around, people with more love and tolerance in their hearts instead of strife, if my mom would be here to watch me graduate from high school this spring. Now she won't be there. So I'll be packing my things and leaving Oklahoma to go to college elsewhere and one day be a writer and I have no intentions to ever return here. I have no doubt that people like you will incite crazy people to build more bombs and kill more people again. I don't want to be here for that. I just can't go through that again.

You may just see me as a kid, but let me try to teach you something. The old saying is sticks and stones will break your bones, but words will never hurt you. Well, your words hurt me. Your words disrespected the memory of my mom. Your words can cause others to pick up sticks and stones and hurt others.

Sincerely

Tucker

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4756

[MrMidwest]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 7:11am

I'm scared to read the comments on this article.

http://www.news9.com/global/story.asp?s=7983168

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 7:20am

Beautiful letter.

[lildogs]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 10:18am

You want to know something wild? When I sent her an email a couple of days ago, I said something about her kids being gay, totally being catty....turns out this 'mo was on the right track? Call me Clair Voyant!

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 10:21am

The one I really feel for is her gay kid.

It kills me that *anyone* is allowed to become a parent. No qualifications required. No heart, no soul necessary.

[lildogs]

Posted: 3/13/08 at 10:25am

I have Okie parents and though daddy hasn't really gotten cool yet, mama is sending me pics of half-dressed fireman and telling me I should audition for baby June in GYPSY. She got hip real quick...