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Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.

Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.

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tazber
#1Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/6/13 at 4:43pm

Never knew this until I read this story today.

Don't you hate it when someone whose work you admire turns out to be such a douche.

Excuse me while I throw out my Ender and Shadow sagas.
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Jordan Catalano
#2Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/6/13 at 4:44pm

I'm surprised you hadn't heard of this before now. It's been "big" news for a little while now!

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tazber
#2Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/6/13 at 4:48pm

I'm just glad I found out before wasting my time and money on his movie of Ender's Game coming out in November.


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Mister Matt
#3Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/6/13 at 5:33pm

He's a total conservative Mormon.

In a 2004 essay entitled "Homosexual 'Marriage' and Civilization", Card wrote: The dark secret of homosexual society—the one that dares not speak its name—is how many homosexuals first entered into that world through a disturbing seduction or rape or molestation or abuse, and how many of them yearn to get out of the homosexual community and live normally.

I prefer C.S. Lewis if I want a little Bible in my sci-fi.


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PalJoey
#4Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/6/13 at 6:20pm

There's a big protest over his new position at DC Comics.


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EricMontreal22
#6Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/9/13 at 3:59pm

I admit I'm a bit cynical, because I assumed this was well known, as well. I hope it becomes better known as the movie comes out.

For me, the irony is that I first read Ender's because of a guy I dated--we gave each other our favorite novels to read, I gave him At Swim, Two Boys, and he gave me Ender's. And I really liked it, with some reservations, but only researched it a while ater when I was looking into the sequels.

I think it raises interesting points about if you can enjoy and support a person's work when you don't agree with their ideas. I don't find this a problem--personally--when it comes to someone like Wagner who is dead and burried (Stephen Fry recently had a great miniseries about his own coming to terms with Wagner.) But when they are living, it's harder. Obviously there are many writers I love who probably don't share my views on a good number of things, but unlike Card, they don't make it public and contribute money--that I know of--to such causes.

It won't make me throw out my copy of Ender's Game. It will make me avoid the movie or buying any of the sequels--but frankly I wouldn't begrudge a fan seeing/reading them. I do question DC comics hiring him though--then again frankly I don't know if I find his current opinions more offensive than those of Frank Miller, and I still hold his 80s comic book work--Daredevil especially as the peak of superhero comics.

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Jordan Catalano
#7Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/9/13 at 6:08pm

You read a lot of comics!

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#8Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/9/13 at 6:19pm

Heh.

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GavestonPS
#9Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/9/13 at 8:13pm

You read a lot of comics!

He reads a lot, period. Good for him!

bethnor
#10Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/9/13 at 11:29pm

the great irony is that the third book, xenocide, IIRC has a tribe of human intellectuals whose religion is genetically programmed mind control.

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EricMontreal22
#11Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/10/13 at 7:13pm

I'm starting to think I should have a meme.

FindingNamo
#12Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/10/13 at 7:55pm

Me too, but then the little pilot fish up there will tag along and kill the fun.


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EricMontreal22
#13Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/10/13 at 8:18pm

...I thought I was the pilot fish Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.

FindingNamo
#14Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/10/13 at 8:35pm

No, you're pilot season.


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Roscoe
#15Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 3/11/13 at 8:50am

The story won't be appearing after all, at least not right away, as the artist/illustrator backed out because of the controversy:

"It took a lot of thought to come to this conclusion, but I've decided to step back as the artist on this story," Sprouse said in a statement released Tuesday. "The media surrounding this story reached the point where it took away from the actual work, and that's something I wasn't comfortable with. My relationship with DC Comics remains as strong as ever and I look forward to my next project with them."

Interesting that Sprouse doesn't say he's backing out because of Card's open bigotry, focusing instead on the "media surrounding the story."

Still, encouraging to find that


Bigotry Has Consequences


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Updated On: 3/11/13 at 08:50 AM

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tazber
#17Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 7:45am


Douche bag extraordinaire issues a nonsensical statement:



Ender’s Game is set more than a century in the future and has nothing to do with political issues that did not exist when the book was written in 1984.

With the recent Supreme Court ruling, the gay marriage issue becomes moot. The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution will, sooner or later, give legal force in every state to any marriage contract recognized by any other state.

Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.



Paragraph 1) Gay rights did not exist in 1984? You are either woefully uneducated or you're trying to make some spurious connection to Orwell. Either way...FAIL.

Paragraph 2) No dickhead, not any marriage contract will be forced to be recognized. I realize you are using that inane argument about how "next people will be able to marry dogs" without actually saying it. But your irrational fear confirms that you are a mental midget.

Paragraph 3) This one..I mean wow. Not seeing your movie can not in any way be conflated with tolerance (or intolerance). I also didn't see Tyler Perry's "Medea Goes To Jail". So by your logic I'm a racist. But wait! I did see a bunch of other Tyler Perry movies, so what happens now? Do I get a "get out of racist jail free" card.


In short: your non apology is logically flawed and you are a stain on humanity. Please go curl up in some dark and dank corner while your relevancy dissipates.

Oh, did I mention that you named your evil alien characters "buggers"? You lose this round Orson.


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Phyllis Rogers Stone
#18Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 12:26pm

Now it will be interesting to see whether the victorious proponents of gay marriage will show tolerance toward those who disagreed with them when the issue was still in dispute.

Tolerance how? Like not trying to keep straight people from being allowed to marry? Sure.

Gothampc
#19Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 12:48pm

Meanwhile, Alec Baldwin still goes unpunished for his homophobic tweet. How do you decide who gets a pass and who doesn't?


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Phyllis Rogers Stone
#20Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 12:51pm

They teach you the algorithm to use after you suck your first cock.

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#21Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 12:53pm

Also, calling someone a queen isn't quite the same as serving on the board of organization that actively works to discriminate against people.

#22Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 12:54pm

Poor conservatives! They are always the victims, aren't they?

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#23Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 12:59pm

I mean, I'd like to know why people act like Anthony Weiner running for office is some kind of crime against humanity, but David Vitter and Mark Sanford still have their careers being career politicians if we're just asking random questions.

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tazber
#24Orson Scott Card is a raging homophobe.
Posted: 7/9/13 at 1:02pm

Burn!


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