Raising the minimum wage- Page 2

[Zola Q. LaPlaya]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:00pm

That kissmycookie is giving me a woody.

[robbiej]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:10pm

Am I the only person here who doesn't complain about the amount of money taken out of my paycheck every week?

I truly have no problem with it. I live, eat and party in one of the top two most expensive cities in the US...and yet I get by just fine and dandy. And I don't make a huge income.

And am I the only person here who would gladly have an extra, say, thousand dollars a year taken out of my paycheck in order to help make sure every American has access to affordable healthcare?

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:21pm

because intelligence is hot

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:24pm

These uniform Icons are getting out of hand.

I'm sorry I like Canada and I like most of the Canadians I've known (quite a few)

The only thing Canada has that the US doesn't is televised curling.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:27pm

Type, minimum wage jobs rarely require their workers to work overtime for that specific reason. Overtime in the US doesn't kick in until after 40 hours. Since McDonalds has their customer buying patterns figured out, they know when to schedule.

For example:
We know we have a breakfast crowd from 7-10am. We'll bring in people from 6-11am which is a 5 hour shift. We only have one customer from 11-Noon, so we only need one person working, etc. Since there are so many people desperate for work in the US we can run people through those 5 hour shifts 7 days a week and still not hit the 40 hour overtime law.

Updated On: 10/14/04 at 12:27 PM

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:29pm

exactly.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:34pm

If you want to talk to me about the McDonalds corporation, tell me about the salary packages and benefits of middle-to-upper management - and how they compare percentage-wise with the people actually providing the product/service.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:35pm

upper/middle management requires training and experience.

a $5.15 and hour job at McD's requires a heartbeat.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:40pm

Rodney - the fact is that ALL of the people are necessary to have the machine function - and it is a choice as to how each part of that machine is compensated. As long as people continue to relegate human components to the level of 'drone', then there is no hope - and will forever reflect on our society as one that is dispassionate and ruled by the external forces of materialistic gain.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:46pm

DGrant, either your copying this stuff from somewhere, or you're to quote Samuel L Jackson from Pulp Fiction "one smart mother ___"

Very eleoquently said, I disagree, but well said.

Problem is there are always going to be "crappy" jobs that have traditionally been the minimum wage jobs. EVERYONE can't have a middle-class income, if so then how can it be the middle?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:52pm

Rodney - my thoughts are my own - and the most important part of that statement is that they are thoughts at all.

It's fascinating to me that the discussion of proportionate distribution of profit always seems to be viewed in the extreme. It either can't change at all, or it has to be obliterated. Even if you accept that the higher you are in a corporate structure should be reflected in higher earnings, you'ld be hard pressed to justify the HUGE disparity in actual income between the top and bottom of the chain. Simply saying that the structure should be examined doesn't mean advocating for its destruction entirely.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 12:58pm

Well said, again.

It's true that the BIG bosses make too much damned money.

I make.. an ok salary. What makes me nuts is that with the cost of living in Chicago, I do a little better than get by. Now if I were trying to support kids, that would be a problem. Now if Kerry raises the minimum wage, I belive as stated earlier, the 'bottom line' will be pushed up. Meanwhile I will be lucky if I see a 2% raise this year. So goods get more expensive, people like me continue to earn the same.

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 1:29pm

Inflation has already happened, so your goods have already started to get more expensive. Meanwhile, the minimum wage hasn't changed since Clinton. That pushes the bottom line down...

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 1:49pm

any econ prof in the country will tell you that keeping the minimum wage sattionary has helped keep inflation in check.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 3:05pm

Oh, so inflation is in check? Thanks for the insight, Eric McDingleberry.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 3:15pm

who?

good to see ya, Namo. I thought you died or somthing.

** gives Namo a big, sloppy kiss **

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 3:17pm

One of the biggest problems is that inflation has gone up over the past 8 years, yet minimum wage has not. People are afraid prices will go up if the minimum wage does as well, yet prices having been going up when minimum wage stays the same, which increases the number of those living at or below the poverty level.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 3:44pm

Exactly, MisterMatt. This is where people like EricMCD reply, "Inflation would be EVEN worse if the lowest paid workers made so much as a penny more an hour."

And Eric, come now. I'm a big Terry O'Quinn fan, but not much of a fan of men who play coy.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 3:53pm

Eric?
EricMCD?
EricDingleberry?

Whatever, dude.

You obviously have me confused with someone else.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 3:57pm

Mmmmm-hmmmm. Dude.

[Matt_G]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 3:58pm

Dude, where's my ballot?

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 4:01pm

"whatever, dude".

What personality are you morphing into now?

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 4:12pm

"whatever, dude"

what can I say, I lived in SoCal for a while.

[musicalfandukie]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 4:21pm

i think it's a good idea to raise..with gas prices and everything going up people have to be able to afford to live.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/14/04 at 4:23pm

but my point is (and has been for the whole thread) that MY pay isn't going to go up.