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Sally Kern's Latest

Sally Kern's Latest

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madbrian
#1Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 6/30/09 at 2:44pm

This is what she has proposed to the Oklahoma legislature:

WHEREAS, ?It is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon
which Freedom can securely stand? (John Adams); and

WHEREAS, ?We have no government armed with power capable of contending with
human passions unbridled by Religion and Morality? (John Adams); and

WHEREAS, ?Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people? (John
Adams); and

WHEREAS, ?We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the
power of government?but upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity
of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to
the Ten Commandments of God? (James Madison); and

WHEREAS, ?Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that
belongs to us by the laws of God (Benjamin Franklin); and

WHEREAS, ?God who gave us life gave us liberty and can the liberties of a nation be
thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the
people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? (Thomas Jefferson); and

WHEREAS, ?Whether any free government can be permanent, where the public
worship of God, and the support of Religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state?
(Joseph Story); and

WHEREAS, ?We hold sacred the rights of conscience, and promise to the people?the
free and undisturbed exercise of their religion? (Roger Sherman); and

WHEREAS, ?This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians?
(Patrick Henry); and

WHEREAS, ?When you?exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be
impressed upon your mind that God commands you to choose just men who will rule in the fear of
God? (Noah Webster); and

WHEREAS, ?The principles of genuine Liberty and of wise laws and administrations
are to be drawn from the Bible? (Noah Webster); and

WHEREAS, the people of Oklahoma have a strong tradition of reliance upon the
Creator of the Universe; and
thought secure when we have removed
WHEREAS, we believe our economic woes are consequences of our greater national
moral crisis; and

WHEREAS, this nation has become a world leader in promoting abortion,
pornography, same sex marriage, sex trafficking, divorce, illegitimate births, child abuse, and
many other forms of debauchery; and

WHEREAS, alarmed that the Government of the United States of America is forsaking
the rich Christian heritage upon which this nation was built; and

WHEREAS, grieved that the Office of the president of these United States has refused
to uphold the long held tradition of past presidents in giving recognition to our National Day of
Prayer; and

WHEREAS, deeply disturbed that the Office of the president of these United States
disregards the biblical admonitions to live clean and pure lives by proclaiming an entire month to
an immoral behavior;

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that we the undersigned elected officials
of the people of Oklahoma, religious leaders and citizens of the State of Oklahoma, appealing to
the Supreme Judge of the world, solemnly declare that the HOPE of the great State of Oklahoma
and of these United States, rests upon the Principles of Religion and Morality as put forth in the
HOLY BIBLE; and

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, believers in the One True God and His
only Son, call upon all to join with us in recognizing that ?Blessed is the Nation whose God is the
Lord,? and humbly implore all who love Truth and Virtue to live above reproach in the sight of God
and man with a firm reliance on the leadership and protection of Almighty God; and

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, humbly call upon Holy God, our
Creator, Sustainer, and Redeemer, to have mercy on this nation, to stay His hand of judgment,
and grant a national awakening of righteousness and Christian renewal as we repent of our great
sin.

Signed on the second day of July in the year of our Lord Christ Two Thousand and Nine.


"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Calvin
#2re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 6/30/09 at 2:55pm

This woman is full of excrement (Calvin)

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Mister Matt
#2re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 6/30/09 at 2:58pm

I guess she hasn't read the gay bible thread(s). Considering how much she longs to live in the past, I'm assuming she hasn't been vaccinated. Anyone have a box of smallpox?


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

Q
#3re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 6/30/09 at 2:59pm

Wow.

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SNAFU
#4re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 6/30/09 at 3:03pm

Hopefully the Lord her God will call her home soon!


Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

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Reginald Tresilian
#5re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 6/30/09 at 3:22pm

"This woman is full of excrement (Calvin)"

Yeah, I'm a Calvinist in this regard.

I take "BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, believers in the One True God and His only Son . . . " to mean "Jews, Buddhists, etc., get the f*ck out of Oklahoma." Yes?

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Mister Matt
#6re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 6/30/09 at 3:33pm

Slap the straight out of her, Reg!


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

Q
#7re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 9:50am

She's supposedly holding a news conference on the state capital steps at noon today, which will include signing of the proclomation by religious and civic leaders. There seems to be little coverage of this I can find; although, the ACLU is scheduled to attend and question whether or not state funds were used in this process.

Roscoe
#8re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 1:56pm

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes."
-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Roscoe
#9re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 1:56pm

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Roscoe
#10re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 1:59pm

Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?
-- John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, May 19, 1821, from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Roscoe
#11re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 2:01pm

I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!
-- John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, from George Seldes, The Great Quotations, also from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief

And so on. A quick google search of the names in Kern's outlandish resolution will find all kinds of irreligious quotes from the founding fathers.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Roscoe
#12re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 2:02pm

One more for luck:

The Treaty of Tripoli
Signed by John Adams

"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] ... it is declared ... that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever product an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries....
"The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."
-- Treaty of Tripoli (1797), carried unanimously by the Senate and signed into law by John Adams (the original language is by Joel Barlow, US Consul)


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Roscoe
#13re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 2:07pm

Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects.
-- James Madison, letter to Bradford, January 1774, from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize, every expanded prospect.
-- James Madison, letter to William Bradford, Jr., April 1, 1774, quoted from Edwin S Gaustad, Faith of Our Fathers: Religion and the New Nation (1987) p. 37, quoted from Ed and Michael Buckner, "Quotations that Support the Separation of State and Church"

Religion flourishes in greater purity without than with the aid of government.
-- James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822, from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Q
#14re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 5:16pm

News coverage of the event,
including video of her statements.

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Liverpool
#15re: Sally Kern's Latest
Posted: 7/2/09 at 11:24pm

So she propesed a bill declare the Christian God the one true god and make him the supreme ruler of of the country?


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