Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
#75Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/9/14 at 11:09pm
Two tears in a bucket.
Mother fvck it.
#76Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 4:20am
Salvation Arrrrmy! Salvation Arrrrrmeeeee!
Put your nickel in our drum!
Just don't take it up the bum!
#77Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 5:14am
Jesus Christ, Fanty. Jesus Christ. Look, it's great that your particular Catholic school has progressive policies about LGBT folks. That's great. But you're acting as though your experience is the norm, when in fact, when it comes to the larger Catholic Church, it is the exception.
Whether you like it or not, as a Catholic you are a member of an organization responsible for the deaths of millions of people from AIDS, the persecution of women and sexual minorities, the abuse of hundreds of thousands of children, and the stunning accumulation of wealth to name just a few of their crimes. The Catholic Church - despite their lovely hospitals and their shiny new Pontiff of positive PR - is a force for evil in this world. If you choose to ignore that, go right ahead, but don't act as though criticisms of the Catholic Church are coming out of nowhere.
#78Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 6:30am
Isn't the Catholic Church still only down with people being gay if they are also practicing chastity?! You can add as much verbal window dressing as you want to this issue, but tolerance and progressive attitudes towards self-imposed eunuchs is still crazytalk.
This is like when right wing politicians stopped openly saying faggot and instead just made it sound like they were supportive, and we all just had a spirited difference of opinion, etc., even though they didn't change any of their lousy ideas or policies. It just sounded more inclusive.
I'm a recovering Catholic, so I'm not bashing them for pure sport. I was head altar boy (that's not what it meant!) at my church, the whole deal... but at a certain point, you have to decide whether it is worth supporting an organization that, at the end of the day, is still anti-gay by any sane reading.
One standup comic summed up the Catholic position on gays pretty well as "No sex before marriage. No marriage."
Now, there are lovely, supportive people who call themselves Catholic and don't buy into this stuff, but that doesn't mean that at a base level they aren't directly contradicting the larger organization, its teachings, and its policies.
#79Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 9:58amDO NOT say bad things about The Catholic Church in this thread! why are you guys CONSTANTLY mean to him?!
#80Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:14am
I still don't understand that kind of logic, HorseTears. I've grown up Catholic and have been one my entire life, and yet you expect that I am just going to somehow stop being Catholic just because you tell me to. I see all the good that the Catholic Church does and I see my own positive experience. I've never met somebody that has had a negative experience with it, and yet you seem to think that I am some kind of modem of evil because of my religion. Yes, the Catholic Church is not perfect, but my experience with it has been great. This will be the last thing that I will say on the subject, but I really don't think it is fair to say that my entire beliefs are corrupt, evil, and wrong, and expect me to just magically do something about it. I don't expect you, HorseTears, to magically become Catholic just because I have a positive experience, so why would it be fair the other way around.
For the record, I am done trying to convince you that the Catholic Church does more good than bad, that's not going to happen because you already have your set ways. I am trying to say that I don't understand the blatant disrespect for a different belief system and yet you claim "equality" or whatever, just not for people with a different belief system, apparently.
And Jordan...I said rude, not mean, and you are the only person I addressed.
Updated On: 12/10/14 at 10:14 AM
#81Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:29am
Whatever. Hopefully Sister Ruler-Slapper takes your phone so you'll be forced to pay attention in school and stop posting here all day.
And please find me where someone (ANYONE) told you to stop being catholic. Have you ever NOT been the victim, Fanny?
#82Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:31amSchool hasn't started yet, and I never post from my phone.
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#83Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:34am
Stephen Fry puts it all very well, as usual:
Mr. Fry Demolishes The Catholic Church
#84Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:37amRoscoe, you're bullying Fantod. Did you not know that disagreement with kids these days is the same thing as bullying?
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#85Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:41amBut Fantod is bullying me by being wilfully and persistently a Catholic person, supporting a hateful mass-murdering AIDS spreading "religion."
#86Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:42amNow you're just constantly bullying him. CONSTANTLY.
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#87Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:44amWell, now Fantod knows how it feels to belong to a mis-represented minority. If Fantod doesn't like it, Fantod can join all the other "Nice Religious Folks Who Aren't All Bigoted Assh*les" and start a movement -- they can have parades, do marches in DC, sell T-shirts, make movies, all those things other minorities have done to get their point across.
#88Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:48am
You're asking a Millennial to not feel victimized and do something to benefit someone other than themselves?
Good luck with that.
#89Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:49amAnd Fantod - before you cry "VICTIM! VICTIM!" Just remember you made this all about you. Nobody else did that.
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#90Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 10:51amThis whole glorified fantasy-football league called Organized Religion has just gotten way out of hand.
#91Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 12:20pm
"...because you already have your set ways."
Says the one set in their ways...
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
#92Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 1:38pmIf you're a Christian and set in your ways, you're an exemplary moral person. But if you're not religious and set in your ways, you're an intolerant bully.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#93Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 1:44pmI'm still curious about the school-mandated QSA.
#94Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 1:45pmHe never stated what QSA exactly means in his church...I mean "school".
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#95Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 1:46pmMe too. I don't believe even believe it exists. Unless it's a celibacy support group.
#96Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 1:55pm
How can it exist? Wouldn't it be advocating "behavior" that is believed to be an abomination?
Dogma. Gotta love it.
#97Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 1:58pmI wish I could have gone to a "school" that constantly told me I was going to hell. I would have supported them, too!
#98Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 2:04pm
"For the record, I am done trying to convince you that the Catholic Church does more good than bad, that's not going to happen because you already have your set ways."
I like how proof is just our "set ways."
I mean, the pedophilia scandal alone would seem to be a cause for a bit of humility. Or is that just part of if you don't encounter the pedophilia personally, how can you really add it to the mix of how you see the church overall?
#99Salvation Army says -Gays Need to Be Put to Death-
Posted: 12/10/14 at 2:06pmI too went to a Catholic school, was an altar boy, etc. - the whole bit - so I do empathize with Fantod's Stockholm Syndrome.
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