So this is what it means to lead by example?
So this is what it means to lead by example?
#1So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 12:07pm
The clergy doing what they do best.
Douchebag pastor
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#2So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 12:17pmI liked this comment: "Well, Pastor, the next time you come in, you can wait until God brings you the menu and takes your order!"
ghostlight2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
#3So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 12:31pm
I hate, HATE when gratuity is automatically added on. I do understand why they do it with big groups, because there are always a few nitpickers and cheapskates in the bunch (which is why I never dine with large groups), and the server inevitably gets screwed. When it is broken down into individual bills, as it was here, it makes less sense.
I am a ridiculously huge tipper. Unless service is seriously substandard, I always tip
20% . Much more if service is very good. I very much resent the charge being added on.
All that said, Pastor a$$hole is a cheapskate and using God as his excuse.
#4So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 12:33pmI'd be curious to know what the good pastor tips when it's not automatically added on.
#5So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 12:43pm
Well if you look closely you'll notice he scratched out the auto-gratuity and just paid for his meal (which seems illegal to me, like skipping out on part of your bill).
I'm a ridiculously big tipper as well.
I really can't understand people like this. Does he not realize that this is how waiters make their living? I mean besides being rude (by not tipping), he has to go and be obnoxious with that absurd little note?
I know it's only six dollars, but you know this had to just ruin the server's day.
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#6So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 12:53pm
If you read the story, the restaurateur had already charged him the gratuity so "scratching it out" saved him no money, just made everyone in the place call him "father Douchebag."
I wonder if you challenge the amount with your card company what happens? I can vouch from my days in retail, those slips are all handled electronically and your card company never ever sees the slip.
#7So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 2:10pm
The Pastor thought he was leaving no gratuity, which is really what it's about. As usual, a member of the clergy knows nothing about life or the teachings of Jesus.
I have no problem at all with automatic gratuity for large parties. It depends on the restaurant, of course. For example, a party of ten would normally require four four-top tables pushed together, which means losing potentially 6 additional diners. Large parties have a tendency to stay far longer, so those tables will remain occupied while most are being turned. The timing of service and order tracking is more difficult as well. The automatic gratuity makes up for the potential tips lost in fewer tables and more turnover. Now, if your server is terrible, you can ask a manager to reduce or eliminate the auto-gratuity if you alert them of the problems immediately.
#8So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 2:37pm
As someone who worked in service for the better part of a decade, I don't think I ever saw an auto-tip added for any party smaller than 8. That's usually the industry standard. Some places say 6 and up, but for most places, a tip is added for parties of 8 or more, no questions asked. Certainly for a party of 20.
ghostlight2, do you think the auto-tip shouldn't have been added because people were paying individually? It was still a 20-person group, even if everyone was paying their own tab. Like the article said, the computer probably automatically added the amount.
And yes, that guy is an a$$hole. Yet another "Christian" who shows no understanding of the teachings of his religion.
ghostlight2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
#9So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 2:46pm
Actually, I had not factored in all the things Mr Matt mentioned. I had only considered that in my experience, when large groups get together, the server gets stiffed because of poor tippers in the group. Upon further reflection, I can understand the tacked on gratuity, whether individual bills or no. What a hassle to make out separate bills, though!
I have been to restaurants that tack on the tip when it just been two of us, and I think there is no excuse for that. A better idea (which I have seen), is a suggestion of tip, figuring out the math for you, at 15 and 20% - but it's left up to you.
Updated On: 1/30/13 at 02:46 PM
#10So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 2:51pm
"...figuring out the math for you, at 15 and 20% - but it's left up to you."
I've seen that a lot lately. I love it!
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#11So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 2:55pmI was at a place recently that when you went to pay the bill with your debit card they asked "Want to add a tip?" and the little scanner said "10%? 15%? 20%?" and you pushed a button and ZIP it was done.
ghostlight2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
#12So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 2:55pmIt makes sense in places that a lot of Europeans frequent, because some of them still don't understand tipping here. It's a kindly reminder and helpful to the math-challenged.
#13So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 3:03pmI find it helpful in cabs, too. You're free to put in any amount (or none, I suppose), but it does the math for three different percentages.
#14So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 3:03pm
Yeah, I went somewhere once where they did show suggestions for tips like 3 between 15-20%.
This guy sounds like a jerk. And the 10% to God is laughable too. Wouldn't he want to do more for him?
#15So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 3:11pm
And the comparison between tithing to god and a tip is ridiculous to begin with. I pay 3% interest on my mortgage. Does that mean I should tip & tithe at 3%? You can't just equate random numbers just because they're both in percentage form.
#16So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 3:15pmMarianne, I believe that the "I give 10% to God" comment was in reference to a church tithe (10% of income goes to church)
#17So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/30/13 at 3:26pm^ Oh yeah. I forgot about that.
ghostlight2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
#18So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/31/13 at 8:06am
Here's a response from the blog of executive director of The Gay Christian network
Justin Lee
#19So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/31/13 at 9:52am
That's a good response.
I wonder if we'll hear from the pastor himself. By now the story is everywhere; he's bound to hear about it.
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Broadway Star Joined: 5/20/03
#20So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/31/13 at 2:27pm
The waitress who posted the photo of the check has been fired from Applebees (where the incident took place.) Turns out it wasn't even her table, but she found it so outrageous that she took the photo.
Was she in the wrong?
#22So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/31/13 at 2:40pmA 15 member church?
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
#23So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/31/13 at 2:46pm
"Some time on Wednesday, Chelsea says the customer who had left the receipt contacted her Applebee’s location, demanding that everyone be fired, from the servers involved to the managers."
How Christ-like.
#24So this is what it means to lead by example?
Posted: 1/31/13 at 3:30pm
I think this comment says it all...
"Did she feel bad after she stiffed the server? No. Did she feel bad after she complained and got the server fired? No. Did she feel bad after she got outed for being a turd? Yes."
Halleloo!
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