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#201

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SPOILER!!











Well Luke has strong powers with the force, ever think that Leia might too? She could somehow remember Padme. Just a thought.
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#202

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That's the way to do it, Kelrel, well done. By the way, where is my PM??? re: Star Wars: Episode III SPOILER

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#203

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I am writing right now deary
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#204

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Well Luke has strong powers with the force, ever think that Leia might too?

On the basis of what we're presented with in Episodes IV, V and VI, I would have to say no.
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#205

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I DID indicate there was a spoiler in my post Subject line - that wasn't added later! It was there originally.

Leia is supposed to have special powers too. In Empire, when Luke leaves to rescue his friends, Obi-Wan says something like all is lost - he was the final hope. Yoda then says, no there is another, implying Leia. Luke also says to Leia that she has the powers too and will learn to use them as he has.

As for the discussion of Leia's memories of her mother, in Jedi, she is supposed to be talking of her real mother, not her adoptive mother.
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#206

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See I thought that Leia had powers..thanks Baddadnpa
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#207

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Luke also says to Leia that she has the powers too and will learn to use them as he has.

And THAT is the first Leia knows about her dormant powers. So if they're dormant and she needs to learn to use them as Luke has, she wouldn't be able to use them to remember Padme now would she?
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#208

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I do not believe Leia is using the force to remember he dead-at-childbirth mother. If so, why couldn't Luke do the same? This is an inconsistency in the Sith script/storyline.
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#209

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I really enjoyed it, but was it just me or not... how cheesy was the part when Darth Vader learned of Padme's death? "Nooooooooo..." I could not help but laugh.
#210

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Elvis, it wasn't just you.
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#211

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Actually, I found that moment quite effective. It was nice to see Vader show some emotion thinking that he killed Padme and his child.
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#212

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Actually, Leia senses Luke's trouble at the end of EMPIRE. Just because you aren't aware of your gifts, doesn't mean you aren't in denial of them.

I say that this whole Leia's memory of her mother is a query. I had always known that Vader kills Padme--back when I was a kid. Not sure HOW I knew that.

Also, I can understand R2D2 never letting on to C3PO and others details of the prequels. But, the prequels now make Obi Wan a lil senile in ANH: He doesn't recall R2 or C3PO. He makes mention that Owen wanted Anakin to stay and "not get involved", which doesn't completely jive with AOTC. At least they dealt with Anakin's lightsaber going to Luke--another white lie on Obi Wan's part.
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#213

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SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER:

I didn't get that Vader kills Padme in Sith. He certainly begins to but is stopped. My thought was that she actually died in childbirth and not of her injury by Vader. My take away was that the Emperor wants Vader to believe he killed her. The look on his face when he tells Vade that he killed her implies that he is telling him a lie. IMO.
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#214

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Well that is certainly one valid interpretation.

I prefer to think that he made a deal with the devil expressly to save Padme, and then was the one to kill her--by weakening her so much that child birth killed her, if you like. That's the tragedy.
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#215

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I thought that he was moreso the CAUSE of her death than her actual killer. Remember, the med droid said that she LOST HER WILL TO LIVE. Her husband has turned into an evil, murdering scumbag. I think it was just her overwhelming grief that made her not want to live anymore--which is certainly just as tragic.

The whole problem with the Leia-mother thing... I'd believe that she could have special "force memories," I suppose. But then why wouldn't Luke? And her adoptive mother would have to die REALLY soon so she wouldn't be able to remember her and tell the difference. It's just not going to work completely right. I had been expecting Padme to live for just two or three years as a horribly sad woman until her broken heart finally killed her.

Stupid George Lucas ruining my storyline. re: Star Wars: Episode III SPOILER

All in all, I really enjoyed the film. I saw it a second time today and enjoyed it even more! The destruction of the Jedi was truly very powerful--thanks in great part to John Williams.

I think one of the strengths of the movie that could override the poor dialogue and direction that was still present, if reduced, was the power of the actual story. The other two prequels didn't have an independent story in each strong enough to really engage me. Oh, Jedis crash on Tatooine and have to get this kid to win a pod race! I can barely even REMEMBER AOTC, although I haven't seen it since the midnight showing when it first came out. But the real power and darkness of the story allowed the film to stand on its own and made me overlook other weaknesses easier.

Christopher Lee (who is sadly not in the movie long enough, because he's always awesome) said in an interview that he played Dooku to really be believing that his actions are helping the Senate. His point was that it made Palpatine's betrayal (telling Anakin to kill him) even worse, as Dooku thought they were a real pair that was going to save the Republic. However, I found it most interesting to see two of the Sith having fallen to the Dark Side for reasons of good. Dooku and Anakin both believe in peace and the Republic. And Anakin wants to save his wife. It makes it all the more painful and poignant.

It'd be nice to know what caused Palpatine's fall, but I'm pretty convinced he just wanted the power the Dark Side offered.
#216

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AMAZING...loved the darkness in it. The Jedi death scenes were depressing and well-crafted. The poor Jedi kids re: Star Wars: Episode III SPOILER Was an awesome movie....Best one is Empire Strikes Back...but this is the second best IMO.
#218

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forester: yes

I really can not decide, thematically I loved it. The way the score correlated to the scenes was really impressive. The Jedi deaths were just so powerful, it was so sudden, abrupt, deceptive and awful. I had always wondered how they were going to pull that off, one moment of instant destruction was really effective.

The writting and acting though, ugh. Except Ewan, and Ian who both did a fantastic job(and Frank Oz, with the CGI team).

I know its not Lucas' strong suit, but with such better material I wish he could have done a better job. Did I think it was better than AOTC and PM? oh yes, much much better. The plot and overall picture probably moves it ahead of ROTJ in my mind too. Star Wars though, I'm not sure, there were moments that were better but as a whole I'm still deciding. Empire is still way ahead in my mind, although I like that it now has a dark twin.

I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#219

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Popping in to say that Leia DOES have the force- she becomes a Jedi in the books, though she doesn't do much with it.

If I'm not interrupting, my thoughts on the movie:

I liked it a lot, despite the annoyingly wierd scenes between Padme and Anakin. Lucas just can't write them and the actors are flat. They have no chemistry. Better than last time, but it'd be hard not to beat it.

I thought that Bail Organa should have been more involved, it still doesn't make sense why Yoda and Obi-Wan would turn Leia over to a VERY high profile family that they hardly knew. Perhaps some competition between him and Anakin for Padme would have been in order.

Ewan McGregor rocks. No one else could have made that bad dialogue good and actually bring depth to the character.

Hayden Christensen looks damned good without his shirt on. And is it just me, or was he playing some Star Wars knockoff version of a Gameboy? After his second vision of Padme dying, the camera cuts back to him and he's putting down what looks a great deal like a handheld video game. Hmmm. Another thing- how are they living together? Wouldn't someone notice? And even if he just sneaks over to her place, it would have come out sometime over the course of three years.

I thought Anakin's mind was a tad too easily molded. It makes the character seem weak because of how quickly he's convinced that killing tons of people will help things. Peace and order my ass. Please.

The final lightsaber battle tugged at my heartstrings just a bit. When Obi-Wan told Anakin that he was a brother... yeah. Just a bit there.

I loved how they interspersed scenes of Anakin being fitted for Vader's suit with Padme giving birth. Nice dramatic contrast.

And that's all off the top of my head. Hope I'm not interrupting or anything.
#220

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I saw the film again last night. I truly still loved it.

Question for all of you:

When Yoda tells Obi Wan of Qui Gonn's discovery of immortality and that Obi Wan will learn how to convene with him, what do you think he's speaking of?

I know what I think. But, I keep overhearing people who think it's the setup for "something else"--maybe the TV show that Lucas keeps mentioning.

However, I DON'T think that is what is up with this moment. What do you think?
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#221

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It might be an explanation for how Obi-Wan was able to come back briefly in five and six to communicate with Luke. Qui-Gon may have taught him that.

#222

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That's what it is, insomniak. This is the answer to the big "Why didn't Qui-Gon disappear when he died?" question. He learned this whole trick after he died and then came back to tell Yoda and Obi-Wan, who then disappeared at their deaths and were able to return as ghosts, as seen in the original trilogy.
#223

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Also, I'm a bit peeved that Lucas brought in Liam Neeson for that one scene and then cut it. :P I'll just have to wait for the DVD, I guess.
#225

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I have not seen the movie yet... I met Hayden Christensen at a party one night. All I can say is, he can take me to the dark side anytime...
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