Survivor: China (spoilers)

[DBillyP]

Posted: 12/13/07 at 9:22pm

Is anyone else watching? I don't want any of the final four to win. Todd, while a good player, is way too cocky to be likable. Courtney has ridden whatever coattails that were available to get where she is since she can do nothing on her own. Denise has no spine, and Amanda turned out to be equally lacking by voting against P.G. tonight and not going for the kill against Todd.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/13/07 at 9:52pm

I've long since given up caring about this set of survivors, so I'm happy to just root for whoever I feel like from week to week. I was sooooo pissed when they didn't get rid of Todd tonight.

I guess it's now really Todd or Amanda's game. Amanda doesn't really accomplish anything (unless she was behind getting rid of James? I can't remember) but at least she has ideas. Courtney, who I do think is kind of funny, is just sooo bitchy and unpleasant, even when things are good for her.

And Denise. Oh, Denise.

Did you see the preview for next week? "Who will be the final four?" etc, with each of them with a little nickname? Todd the Schemer, Courtney the Long Shot, Amanda the ???? and Denise was just the Lunch Lady? But really, what else could you call her? She really doesn't do anything, you know?

Updated On: 12/13/07 at 09:52 PM

[sesot]

Posted: 12/13/07 at 10:27pm

Amanda was the "chameleon". I was disappointed they didn't vote Todd off too. Would have been cool to have 4 women in the end. Did you catch Todd's smirk after the vote was revealed; he is way too cocky. I hope the jury caught it too. If he makes it to the final 2 he will either get no votes because he pissed so many people off or he will get a lot because they see him as the more skilled player. Denise has had several opportunities these past few weeks to make key plays, but she backs down, even though she keeps saying she is low man on totem pole. If you know this when why not prove them wrong and show them you can stand on your own? I don't really care who wins at this point.

[DBillyP]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 10:34am

I think poor Denise will be the next to go.

So, will there be two or three in the final tribal council this year? I thought I heard Jeff say in the preview voice-over that there will be three tribal councils in the final two hours. That would mean one to take it to three, one to take it to two and one for the vote, right?

If that is the case, and if Todd truly is smart, he should take Courtney to the final two. The one thing juries hate more than backstabbing little manipulators like Todd is coattail riding little b*tches like Courtney.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 11:01am

Denise could very well stumble into a top spot like she has been doing all along, but man, talk about someone who has taken zero initiative herself in the game.

Yep, they said three tribal councils. I never quite got the point of having three people at the final council. I don't know if they were trying to mix things up to prevent people from just dragging along someone they know won't get the votes?

On one hand, I get how the jury hates the backstabbers and the hangers on that make it to the finals, but the fact still remains that however they got there, they still beat the jury there. This final tribal council has all the makings of one of the more bitter and contentious councils. So many people on it have their little axes to grind. Frosti seems like the only one who won't spew venom when he gets up to ask his question.

[DBillyP]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 11:46am

You have a point there, PRS. The final four, however they did it, are still the final four. As much as I don't want any of them to win, I will still be glued to the television on Sunday!

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:04pm

Oh, yeah. I find them all equally unlikeable, but sometimes that makes for the most fun! This season picked up, but I really hated the first half or so.

[pab]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:23pm

"If that is the case, and if Todd truly is smart, he should take Courtney to the final two."

It's a final three and I don't think that Denise will be a part of it.

Updated On: 12/14/07 at 12:23 PM

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:26pm

Todd won't win against any of them. Too many on the jury dislike him.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:29pm

"It's a final three and I don't think that Denise will be a part of it."

Eventually it will be the final two, and you want to sit next to someone everyone dislikes and/or doesnt admire.


"Todd won't win against any of them. Too many on the jury dislike him."

I disagree, he's the only one who played a decent game, except for the giving away the idol thing. He's a jackass, but at least he showed up to play the game...this game and other reality shows often go to the least liked because they had to be that to play the game successfully.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:30pm

It depends on how much spite the jury is feeling, I think. Often when it's down to someone who schemed and plotted against someone who did virtually nothing (ie, Courtney and Denise) they jury will begrudgingly vote for the schemer, because at least he was actually playing the game.

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:35pm

As long as Amanda wins the final immunity, it's her's to lose. Beauty queens have done VERY well on Survivor.

[pab]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:38pm

"Eventually it will be the final two, and you want to sit next to someone everyone dislikes and/or doesnt admire. "

No it won't eventually be two. The Jury will vote between three people as they have in past few years of the show.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:47pm

Yeah, but the commercial said three tribal councils, although the CBS website says something about the final three being held accountable by the jury.
Updated On: 12/14/07 at 12:47 PM

[pab]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:54pm

It's totally possible that they may have changed the format back to a final two for this season but since Survivor 13 there have been three contestants facing the Jury. I think that at this point Amanda stands the best chance of winning.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 12:58pm

Yeah, I have no idea now. I guess we'll find out on Sunday!

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 1:08pm

They did say three tribal counsels, right?

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 12/14/07 at 1:10pm

Yes, they did. Definitely.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/16/07 at 10:13pm

So is the third tribal some bullsh*t audience thing?

Courtney looks good.

[The Boy From Ohio]

Posted: 12/16/07 at 10:34pm

Todd wins! He was a better "player"...I think he deserved it out of the final three.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/16/07 at 10:41pm

They're all pretty well-adjusted, I think. That tribal council was a little contentious (wtf was Jamie talking about?), but I liked that James took the high road.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/16/07 at 10:58pm

I bet James is on it again next season. Yuck.

[pab]

Posted: 12/17/07 at 12:55am

"So is the third tribal some bullsh*t audience thing?"

Nope, they lied. No third tribal. Unless they count the popular vote thing as a tribal counsel. Very misleading.

The game was Amanda's to loose and she lost it at tribal. Todd's performance there was brilliant and gave him the votes needed to win. I'm just surprised that Courtney actually got two votes.

"I bet James is on it again next season."

I thought the same thing.

Updated On: 12/17/07 at 12:55 AM

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 12/17/07 at 7:25am

I'm thinking it's Pei Gih on Fans and Favorites. They hardly showed or talked to her during the wrap-up.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 12/17/07 at 1:48pm

I'm just surprised that Courtney actually got two votes.

I was surprised she didn't get more. I thought her performance at tribal was nothing short of brilliant. She admitted the truth, didn't try to sugarcoat anything and was pretty much herself.

They were all stupid for not getting rid of Todd when they had the chance.

And am I crazy, or wasn't the line a few weeks ago that Denise was worried that - after her husband appeared - no one would vote for her because she had "such a good life." Suddenly last night it was nothing but "Woe as me, I'm just a dumb lunch lady." Kind of revolting.

I also thought James winning a hundred grand was crap, too. I hate the "let's give money to the person CBS tries to convince us was some great, admirable player who is usually just a huge douche." I cite Rupert as the original and best example.

And seriously, giving Denise fifty thousand smackers just for hating her life? Give me a f*cking break.