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#26

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 12:40pm

Romantico - not to be contrary (but I will)

You think it's petty of him to not want to engage in that behavior.

But aren't you being petty to nitpick about what some other actor does? Ultimately how does this affect you in any way. Did he take a job away from you? Were you up for this same role?

The whole conversation is petty. It's no one's business but the performer and the production team as to what transpires.

It's too bad we live in a society where any bit of trivial "dirty" laundry makes news.

Who cares.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#27

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 12:58pm

Maybe they can get Tiger Woods or Jesse James to play the part.

I hear they'll kiss anything.

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#28

just put your mouth here 'n the camera will do the rest...well almost

Posted: 4/1/10 at 12:59pm

It doesn't affect me. I am not an actor and it isn't taking anything away from me. If this were nudity I can see him having some issues and I would not even really give it that much attention. Is it petty of me to nitpick what he does? Well, I see it different and we may have to agree to disagree. I see something like kissing as being harmless. I may even cut him some slack if his reasons were that his wife was uncomfortable with it.However, using his religion as an excuse and people cheering him on as if he has refused the most vulgar act Hollywood could ask an actor to do is just too much.

If he knew about it beforehand and assumed it would be changed he caused the problem. He has worked in Hollywood for a while now and I am curious if this has been his stand all along or if it's a new rule he just started enforcing.

I agree,it is not news and I am surprised by the reaction. The guy is an actor and what he is being asked to do is common for actors in stage film and television. We've seen the most conservative and religious actors do love scenes and kissing scenes so him being above all of that really annoys me.There are many actors out there who are good and would kill to do what he does and just get the chance to work.I think he is petty and arrogant and using his religion as an excuse,but that's just my opinion.
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#29

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 1:07pm

Why would he pursue and accept roles for married men characters if he refuses to even kiss onscreen? Presumably a married couple would be expected to kiss at some point. Why wouldn't he just say no from the beginning and go choose an action role instead?

If he wants to stick to his morals, more power to him, but it seems like he brought some of this on himself by accepting the role in the first place and hoping the creative team went for an I Love Lucy portrayal of a married couple.
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#31

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 1:12pm

I guess I don't understand what his principles are. Morally he has no issue playing a psychopath, murderer, or scoundrel, but because he's Catholic he can't kiss another women on film? Jesus, even Patty Heaton used to kiss Ray Romano.

And Craig, I would guess you care, since you keep contributing to romantico's "petty" arguement.

#33

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 1:47pm

This whole concept seems so foreign to me. I mean, personally, I pretty much have no boundaries as to what I would portray. I've done nudity, gay love scenes, straight love scenes, rape, racism...hell, I've even played a Republican.

But, in the end, it's his business what he will do and won't do. I just think it's disingenuous (sp??) to think that it won't affect the work you've signed onto knowing ahead of time what is expected in the script. If it makes you uncomfortable, don't take the job.
#34

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 1:58pm

well, it hasn't been an issue on his previous series roles and the guy has worked a lot. it's win/win for both him and the series, they. the show gets a buttload of free press and so does he. he didn't do nicolette sheridan on desperate housewives when he played her hubby. he didn't get into it with his "girlfriends" on boomtown or medical investigation. maybe they knew when they signed him and when the script for this episode came they thought he would change his mind. i'd do virgie madsen in a heartbeat, but then i'm not neal.
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#35

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:10pm

"And Craig, I would guess you care, since you keep contributing to romantico's "petty" arguement. "

Actually - I don't care what the actor does or doesn't do. I was responding to Romantico's posts. I didn't start the thread. It's not "newsworthy." When I said who cares - I mean - who cares what the actor does. He's not hurting anyone and it has no bearing on my life or probably anyone else's in this thread. So again - who cares really?

And that's not anything against Romantico.
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#37

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:15pm

Very few of the posts here are newsworthy or affecting anyone's life. I think it's an interesting discussion. I guess others do too, or the thread would die.

I don't care what he does either, but I am curious about what his boundaries actually are. Really as basic as no kissing? Would he say "I love you" to an actress in a scene?

And to those who say you can't compare it to, say, playing a murderer because you don't really kill someone: sure you can. Unless it's porn, you don't really have sex, either.

If it's a comfort-level thing, I guess that's fine. I don't see how it's about his morals.





Updated On: 4/1/10 at 02:15 PM

#38

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:20pm

that's because you're a c*ck-worshipping heathen sodomite, reg.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#40

just put your mouth here 'n the camera will do the rest...well almost

Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:28pm

I worked with an actress who made a promise to her husband when they go married that she would never kiss anyone but him. They're not a particularly religious couple...it's just part of their vows, in a way. I was supposed to kiss her in the show, but we worked around it, and made it a passionate clench...which didn't in the least bother her (or her husband).

Again, it's not something I would do...ever. And I think if you DO make those choices, you need to understand that it might limit the roles you can play. But, that's the way some folks roll. It's all good.
#42

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:33pm

In this case, I do believe the director knew about it. She was (is) great friends with the director and the director's wife...so I believe he was aware.

And in this specific case, I think the clench with my head buried in her tits was actually much funnier than a passionate kiss.
#45

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Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:59pm

"While ABC declined to comment, another source who has had access to the script confirms that sex and kissing scenes were written into it and the actor accepted the part anyway."

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/03/neal-mcdonough-signed-on-to-scoundrels-knowing-there-were-sex-scenes.html
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently' -Robert Evans-
#47

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Posted: 4/2/10 at 2:56am

I don't think the contract will explicitly say "YOU WILL HAVE SEX SCENES AND KISS WOMEN."

I'm sure it said something to the lines of "you will play this part as it is written and/or as the director tells you to".

If he agreed to do the part knowing that there would be kissing, sex, whatever involved, then they should sue him for breach of contract.

I think it's silly for an actor to say no because of whatever reasons. This reminds me of the Will Smith debacle while filming EIGHT DEGREES OF SEPARATION. "No, I ain't gonna kiss that white boy!"

I didn't watch it religiously, but I'm pretty sure Neal kissed Nicollete a few times on Desperate Housewives.
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#49

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Posted: 4/2/10 at 8:12am

"If playing a murderer does not condone murder, why does playing a love scene condone infidelity?"

I don't see where he said he was at all concerned with what he was "condoning", only with what he, actually, physically, had to do.

"And to those who say you can't compare it to, say, playing a murderer because you don't really kill someone: sure you can. Unless it's porn, you don't really have sex, either."

But Reg, That's a false analogy. He's not objecting to sex or murder, the notions he'd be pretending to do. He's objecting to the actual act he's being asked to physically perform, not the idea of what it's pretending to simulate. He's objecting to what the act really is...rubbing and kissing.

Romantico...you keep saying' "it's only kissing" But what I read is that he objects to heavy love scenes...and your thread title says sex scenes.
Art has a double face, of expression and illusion.

Updated On: 4/2/10 at 08:12 AM

#50

just put your mouth here 'n the camera will do the rest...well almost

Posted: 4/2/10 at 10:12am

artscallion, I get what you're saying, but I think the analogy does hold. Rubbing and kissing isn't sex any more than pretending to strangle someone is murder.

We all have our own boundaries, and if those are his, fine. For example, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have a problem seeing my actor boyfriend (if I had one) kissing and rubbing someone on TV. I would have a problem seeing him do porn. I personally think that if you're going to date an actor that my boundaries are more reasonable. But that's just me; I certainly don't think anyone else needs to agree. I just find this guy's boundary a little odd.

Again, just me. And, apparently, Romantico.

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