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#351

oh we're all different -- no we're really the same underneath -- no wait--

Yes, Papa, I did rather intend to make a more general point about the current climate of splitsville that is hysterically sold and resold, constructed and deconstructed. Call me ambivalent in extreme at this point. Whenever I grow tired of hearing how divided we are, I flip flop (remember that Olympic event?) and get just as weary hearing how "deep down, we all have the same values..." Yeah, true, we all like to eat and get laid, and sleep late on Saturday.

And now, if and when Sciavo passes, as I've opined, her martyrdom is assured. The 'remember Terri' tees are probably already being printed. When I look at photos of her before her decline, the sort of sexy Melissa Manchester-looking woman, I wonder how she would've liked the constant -- nonstop -- replaying of the incendiary footage that turned her into gaping-mouthed alien with a vacant stare and curled up paws for hands. It's obscene, and alas, it'll be with us forever.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#352

The Thinking Person's Ann Coulter

I just wet myself a little over this from that Peg o' my heart:

They seem to love the phrases they bandy about: "vegetative state," "brain dead," "liquefied cortex."

Those are phrases bandied about? LOL! Try the results of scientific examinations on her brain! She has a liquefied cortex! NO amount of therapy beyond the discovery of how to clone a human brain and insert it into a currently living human (which probably won't happen without stem-cell research...hmm...) is going to cause her brain to miraculously resolidify and work again!

Now, talk about phrases to bandy about, how about the ONE emotional talking point the Republicans and their lackeys have tossed about again and again: "err on the side of life."

Nice to see Peg thinks for herself.

Another tactic: let's toss in completely unrelated issues and try to tie them in to make people sound like hypocrites

"The PETA people, who say they are committed to ending cruelty to animals, seem disinterested in the fact of late-term abortion, which is a cruel procedure performed on a human."

Never been legal in the US. Never been performed in the US (as we know). Talking point designed to scare the voting constituency into believing all abortions are spooky, gross things akin to ritualistic sacrifice.
As for PETA believing in ending cruelty. Guess what we do to animals when they're no longer within our power to save? What's that you say? We put them to sleep? We do?!?! How barbaric! How awful to help a creature ease itself into passing painlessly and without more harm.

More from Peg:
Terri Schiavo may well die. No good will come of it. Those who are half in love with death will only become more red-fanged and ravenous.

Wow, that sounds just like me! I mean, I know I engorged myself by stealing a small child this morning and eating her. I then tossed her bones to my small pug, who is protected from cruelty acts but really loves the marrow of 4 year olds.

More:
And those who are still learning--our children--oh, what terrible lessons they're learning. What terrible stories are shaping them. They're witnessing the Schiavo drama on television and hearing it on radio. They are seeing a society--their society, their people--on the verge of famously accepting, even embracing, the idea that a damaged life is a throwaway life.

F**K you, Peggy Noonan. do you know what it's like to live life with a developmentally disabled person? My grandmother's sister was SEVERELY retarded. She required constant care and supervision her ENTIRE life (which lasted about 74 years). She eventually had to be put in a home when my grandmother died because no one in our family could afford to stop working to take care of her.
guess how My aunt Annette's medical bills were paid? MEDICARE! MEDICAID! The things that the Bush Administration continues to quietly cut while waving their hands at the smoke and mirror distraction that is the Terri Schiavo fiasco. And, guess what? If these cuts happen, were my aunt to still be alive and in the nursing home, she'd be eliminated from her benefits by the new Bush cuts.
So who values life?!? F**k you, Peggy Noonan. You know nothing.
#353

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

so this all boils down to an issue of money and inconvenience then bway?
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Updated On: 3/25/05 at 12:32 PM

#354

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

Papa, way to go. you rock, you nasty Republican you.
Convenience? Try the fact that my father makes less than I do a year. I temp in New York City. My father has worked the same job for about 20 years.
My mother is a hairstylist. between the two of them, living in a poverty-level income area of the country (one of the poorest, if most reports I ever read are true), they had just enough money to scrape together to raise two children and see them to college. This in the middle of side-swipes by Republicans at cutting benefits like meals for children (which I had to have seeing as we were broke-ass poor) at schools and art programs (my band program had its funding slashed and I nearly had to quit it since my parents couldn't afford to buy me an instrument, until they managed to get financing for it through their credit union).
Now, when my grandmother died, she had NO money. My dad couldn't quit to take care of his aunt. My mom couldn't quit since, for better or for worse, my family is a two-income family and needs both to survive. Medicare wasn't going to say, "here, since you're being so virtuous and taking care of your elderly and disabled aunt, we'll up her benefits so your wife can stay at home to take care of her AND still have enough money left to raise two children (who were both teenagers at the time)."
But, guess what? Medicare will (or would at the time) pay for nursing at a home.
What choice would you make, you Republican who so obviously loves America and must know everything that is right and virtuous about life?

***Edited for one last comment.
Now you know more than you need to about my circumstances, but don't you DARE accuse my family of not caring about my aunt? I went to the nursing home and went on walks with her even though, when she did speak, it was nonsense and I was never even sure she knew me.
And, for the record, my entire family? Conservative, on-fire-for God Christians. And Republicans.
On second thought, I guess you're right. Republicans do make it boil down to money and inconvenience.

Updated On: 3/25/05 at 12:37 PM

#355

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

bway, i can hear the violins swelling in the background with each keystroke and what a crescendo!
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#356

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

LOL. Great response, my man. Once again proving you are out of touch with any reason someone might want to, say, remove a feeding tube.
Ever had someone in your family be hooked up to a machine? Ever had a disabled family member? Ever had to make a choice like this?
The Republican stance on this is that it's a simple black and white thing: if you're unclear, err on the side of life.
Meanwhile, err on the side of life and pray to God for a miracle when we remove the tube anyway because we've cut your grandmother's Medicaid.

You can respond sarcastically all you want but you clearly have no idea and your reality is warped by what Tom DeLay and Bill Frist and that feeding tube attached to George Dubya (what's his name? I forget because I'd love to forget he exists) want you to say.
#357

The United States of Jesus (William Pitt)

William Pitt weighs in, persuasively:

http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/3/25/10383/0260

And for the record, I, too, and a practicing Christian. Who didn't get goosebumps over Mel's S&M movie, and certainly cannot get behind what is being done to support this 'culture of life.'

The United States of Jesus
By WilliamPitt,

Fri Mar 25th, 2005 at 10:38:03 AM EST :: The GOP ::

"What this issue has done is it has galvanized people the way nothing could have done in an off-election year. That is what I see as the blessing that dear Terri's life is offering to the conservative Christian movement in America."

- Rev. Lou Sheldon, founder of the notoriously anti-gay organization ‘The Traditional Values Coalition’

And O my Lord, how the money rolled in. The quote above comes from a New York Times story describing how far-right groups like Sheldon’s Traditional Values Coalition, along with Operation Rescue and RightMarch.com, are cashing in on the furor that has arisen around the matter of Terri Schiavo. The Puritans believed you could tell if a person was in good graces with the Lord by seeing if they had a lot of money in the bank. Some things, I guess, don’t change.


Rank hypocrisy, of course, is as constant as the North Star. We have progressed beyond hypocrisy this week, however, and are barnstorming towards a kind of fundamentalist theocracy that is cancerous to the basic underpinnings of the republic.

First question: Who is actually running the country? The easy answer is George W. Bush, President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief. An easy answer, but wrong. As has been conclusively proven, no catastrophe or threat can dislodge George when he has boll-weeviled into his Crawford ‘ranch’ for some sorta-earned vacation time. Yet last week, in the dead of night, he boarded his chariot and raced back to Washington to sign that ‘Save Terri’ legislation.

At whose request? Why, at the request of Rep. Tom Delay. The warnings in the summer of 2001 about an imminent and massive terror attack on the United States could not dislodge George from his repose, but DeLay crooks his little finger and George comes a-runnin’.

Mr. DeLay, with the Traditional Values Coalition, Operation Rescue and RightMarch.com at his back, is fast becoming the most powerful politician in Washington. His strength comes from people like this:

These are but a few of the protesters who have followed DeLay, Frist and the fundamentalists into the maw of the Schiavo struggle. While the polls say some 80% of Americans do not approve of the congressional sideshow that has been playing out on this issue, DeLay and his crew know where their collective bread is buttered. People like those depicted above make up the backbone of the GOP, the hard-right flank that always always always votes, and votes Republican. These folks are so devoted a GOP voting bloc that if the God of the Righteous swooped down from Heaven on a flaming chariot and denounced George, DeLay, Frist and the rest as craven scumbags, these folks would petition to have Him arrested for disturbing the peace.

Some of them can be a wee bit too devoted, as was the case of the Florida man arrested for trying to steal a gun so he could “take some action and rescue Terri Schiavo.” I wonder how happy the fundamentalist leadership was upon hearing this story. I’ll bet, secretly, they were pleased. You can’t buy this kind of passion, and if a few eggs get broken in a shootout at the hospice, well, perhaps that’s the price of doing the Lord’s business.

Second question: What is the ultimate goal of all this?

There are a number of answers. This Schiavo matter, clearly, helps these far-right groups line their pockets. It gets the far-right grassroots worked up into a froth. The leaders of this push believe it provides them with a wedge issue with which to attack Florida Democratic Senator Bill Nelson, a supposition yet to be proven. The more strategery-minded in the crew saw it as some cheese dangled before Senate Democrats to lure them into a ‘Culture of Life,’ mudfight, and perhaps as a distraction to deflect attention from the looming battle over the filibuster. Thankfully, the Senate Democrats refused to take the bait.

There’s more to it, though. Much more. The group Americans United for Separation of Church and State got hold of a recording from a March 17-19 meeting of the right-wing group The Family Research Council. Both Rep. DeLay and Sen. Frist spoke at this meeting, and both declared their intention to refashion America into the United States of Jesus. A tasty quote from the confab by Mr. DeLay: "One thing that God has brought to us is Terri Schiavo, to help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America."

According to the Americans United release, during the FRC meeting, Frist and DeLay assured attendees that they would do what it takes to keep Schiavo connected to a feeding tube and also would exert great power to push a whole host of issues central to the Religious Right's agenda. DeLay urged the gathering to contact lawmakers in both chambers to support legislation that would allow churches to become much more involved in partisan politicking. The Texas Republican blasted current federal tax law, which bars both secular and religious nonprofit groups from endorsing political candidates. "It forces Christians back into the church and that's what is going on," DeLay claimed. "That's not what Christ asked us to do. We have to fight back."

I forgot to mention one aspect of this: The Schiavo noise is an excellent blast shield for DeLay, who is facing a raft of serious ethics charges that include a scandal in Texas for his active participation in illegally funneling corporate funds to assist state political campaigns. DeLay's political action committee, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), is under criminal investigation for using corporate money to finance Texas campaigns. DeLay has tried to distance himself from the group, but documents show DeLay "personally forwarded at least one large check" to the group and was "in direct contact with lobbyists for some of the nation's largest companies" on TRMPAC's behalf.

DeLay also has admitted offering to endorse Sen. Nick Smith's (R-MI) son Brad, who was running for Congress at the time, in exchange for Smith's "yea" vote on the Medicare bill. His actions violated House rules and earned DeLay a "public admonishment" from the Ethics Committee. Smith originally alleged - and then retracted after pressure from House leaders - that DeLay also offered a $100,000 bribe for his vote. DeLay extended the role call on the Medicare bill for nearly three hours in order "to avoid an embarrassing loss."

The House ethics panel rebuked DeLay for using government resources to help locate a private plane he thought was carrying Texas Democratic legislators. DeLay was trying to force the legislators back to the capitol so he could push through his "bitterly disputed congressional redistricting." The ethics report cited House rules that bar members from taking "any official action on the basis of the partisan affiliation…of the individuals involved" and said DeLay's behavior raised "serious concerns" under such "standards of conduct."

DeLay also used a children's charity, Celebrations for Children Inc., as cover for collecting soft money from anonymous interest groups, some of which was used for "dinners, a golf tournament, a rock concert, Broadway tickets and other fundraising events" at the Republican convention in New York. Because the money was supposedly for charity, companies wishing to curry favor with DeLay were able to do so without revealing themselves as campaign donors. Federal laws governing tax-exempt charities allow no more than an insubstantial portion of a group's revenue to be spent on activities other than the charity's main stated purpose.

You don’t suppose...nah, he wouldn’t use a dying woman to help save his career, power and position. He’s a good Christian man.

In the end, we appear to be witnessing yet another Classic GOP Overreach. While DeLay, Frist and Jeb Bush snuggle in the warm bosom of the far-right, the rest of the country is looking at these guys as if they are certifiably deranged...which, really, is not too far off the mark. The hand of the Democrats in the looming filibuster fight has been strengthened by this debacle, as few Americans outside the fundamentalist community think these guys have shown themselves to be able to handle the power they already have, and never mind the unlimited reach they’ll get if the filibuster goes poof. George has gone Full Turtle on this, tucking his head into his shell and waiting for the bad noise to stop. Meanwhile, there is money to be made off Ms. Schiavo…if you know the right people
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#358

Passion of the Peggy

Peggy's too smart to talk about Terri's "suffering..." For educated pundits to speak of the tube removal as a barbaric act is the worst sort of 'impassioned' panic. Shame on the lot of them. I expect this from the pulpit screamers, but not from a rational woman who trades on measured responses. Shame.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling

Updated On: 3/25/05 at 12:47 PM

#359

Schiavo Case a BONANZA for Christian Conservatives

March 25, 2005 THE NEW YORK TIMES

Conservatives Invoke Case in Fund-Raising Campaigns

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Videotape of Terri Schiavo blinking at her parents has inspired donations from people around the country to the foundation set up to help pay for the family's legal battle. But many other groups are soliciting donations in her name as well, some for a much broader agenda.

"Help Save Terri Schiavo's Life!" says the Web site of the Traditional Values Coalition, a Christian conservative group best known for its campaigns against gay rights. Next to a link to the Web site of her parents' foundation is a pitch to "become an active supporter of the Traditional Values Coalition by pledging a monthly gift."

"What this issue has done is it has galvanized people the way nothing could have done in an off-election year," said Rev. Lou Sheldon, the founder of the group, acknowledging that the case of Ms. Schiavo, a severely brain-damaged Florida woman, had moved many to open up their checkbooks. "That is what I see as the blessing that dear Terri's life is offering to the conservative Christian movement in America."

Mr. Sheldon, whose organization is based in Anaheim, Calif., said his group had sent e-mail messages and direct mailings telling supporters to call elected officials about the Schiavo case and usually asking for donations as well.

Voice for Terri, a coalition of anti-abortion and Christian conservative groups, is one of several organizations that has sent e-mail messages and set up Web sites pointedly criticizing Ms. Schiavo's husband, Michael, who has fought for years to have his wife's feeding tube removed over the objections of her parents. Troy Newman, the president of the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue and a spokesman for Voice for Terri, said the coalition was spending the money it raised to cover the costs of rallies, of hotel rooms and of rental cars for organizers of protests in Florida, and of e-mail and letter-writing campaigns.

"This is not something you make money off of," Mr. Newman said. "It is a tragedy."

The Web site of Ms. Schiavo's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, terrisfight.org, warns visitors that their foundation and Web site are the only legitimate places to contribute to her legal defense.

"Any other source that claims to be a fund-raising effort on her behalf should be brought to our attention here," the site says.

Paul Nelson, the president of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability, which certifies the accounting of many of the best-known evangelical charities, said his organization frowned on groups raising money for causes peripheral to their work. And Mr. Nelson said any accusations or criticisms against Mr. Schiavo or others that were raised on Web sites and could not be proved would stretch his organization's requirement that all fund-raising be truthful.

None of these conservative groups would say how much they had raised so far by invoking the Schiavo case.

The connections can be complicated. Ms. Schiavo's parents invited Randall Terry, the founder of Operation Rescue, who is estranged from the group, to help organize rallies and protests for their cause. Mr. Terry, in turn, asked his friends and fellow conservative activists, William Greene and Philip Sheldon - the son of Lou Sheldon of Traditional Values - to help raise money through their organization RightMarch.com.

The two founded RightMarch.com two years ago "to counter the well-financed antics of radical left-wing groups like MoveOn.org," according to the group's Web site. Often quoting Ms. Schiavo's father's endorsement of Mr. Terry, their organization has taken out advertisements in USA Today and The Washington Times, and on radio stations around the country, directing supporters to its Web site. It has also sent millions of e-mail messages to its mailing list urging "Save Terri Schiavo from starvation!" and asking for donations.

Mr. Greene, who is also president of Strategic Internet Campaign Management (the acronym is pronounced "sic 'em," according to the group's Web site), said he did not expect to raise more than the group spent on advertising and computer services for the battle over Ms. Schiavo, but any surplus would be spent on conservative causes.

"General operating procedure for anyone, I guess," Mr. Greene said.
#360

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

my mind is warped? bway, with your posts in this thread alone you've taken the cake in that category. but please, by all means, don't let anything slip through that veneer of anger you've so carefully constructed. maybe your therapist can help you with that. but then again, i'd advise against it, once the anger's gone, what's left?
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...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

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he was the gimmicky sort

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#361

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

I thought it very poignant that Law & Order: SVU this week on USA played the episode where the mother shook her baby daughter, giving her SBS and destroying her brain. She argues that she wants to keep the child alive (and the defense believes it's to keep herself from a murder charge) but when the doctor explains to the court that the girl's body responds to pain and is, most likely, in constant extreme pain the mother cries out in court for the life support to be removed because she can't stand the thought of her child being in that pain...and she no longer cares about the murder charge.
Plince! Plince! Nein! T-Rex!!
#362

Native Americans Criticize Bush's Silence on School Shooting

washingtonpost.com

Native Americans Criticize Bush's Silence

Response to School Shooting Is Contrasted With President's Intervention in Schiavo Case

By Ceci Connolly
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 25, 2005; Page A06

MINNEAPOLIS, March 24 -- Native Americans across the country -- including tribal leaders, academics and rank-and-file tribe members -- voiced anger and frustration Thursday that President Bush has responded to the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history with silence.

Three days after 16-year-old Jeff Weise killed nine members of his Red Lake tribe before taking his own life, grief-stricken American Indians complained that the White House has offered little in the way of sympathy for the tribe situated in the uppermost region of Minnesota.

"From all over the world we are getting letters of condolence, the Red Cross has come, but the so-called Great White Father in Washington hasn't said or done a thing," said Clyde Bellecourt, a Chippewa Indian who is the founder and national director of the American Indian Movement here. "When people's children are murdered and others are in the hospital hanging on to life, he should be the first one to offer his condolences. . . . If this was a white community, I don't think he'd have any problem doing that."

Weise's victims included his grandfather and five teenagers; seven other students were wounded, and two of them remain in serious condition in a hospital in Fargo, N.D.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan, in an informal discussion with reporters Tuesday, said: "Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those who were killed."

"I hope that he would say something," said Victoria Graves, a cultural educator at Red Lake Elementary School on the reservation. "It's important that there's acknowledgment of the tragedy. It's important he sees the tribes are out here. We need help."

The reaction to Bush's silence was particularly bitter given his high-profile, late-night intervention on behalf of Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged Florida woman caught in a legal battle over whether her feeding tube should be reinserted.

"The fact that Bush preempted his vacation to say something about Ms. Schiavo and here you have 10 native people gunned down and he can't take time to speak is very telling," said David Wilkins, interim chairman of the Department of American Indian Studies at the University of Minnesota and a member of the North Carolina-based Lumbee tribe.

"He has not been real visible in Indian country," said former senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.). "He's got a lot of irons in the fire, but this is important."

Even more alarming than Bush's silence, he said, is the president's proposal to cut $100 million from several Indian programs next year.

After hearing grumbling from tribal leaders, Jacqueline Johnson, executive director of the National Congress of American Indians, called the White House on Thursday to inquire about Bush's silence. "I wanted to make sure the White House is paying attention to this issue," she said. "I wasn't sure."

Asked Thursday about Bush's silence, spokeswoman Dana Perino said that he plans to dedicate part of his Saturday radio address to the Red Lake tragedy and that he is following the case closely through the FBI and the Justice Department.

In the hours after the massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado in 1999, President Bill Clinton publicly expressed his condolences and followed up a few days later with a radio address in which he proposed new gun control measures and school safety projects.

At the Red Lake Urban Indian Office here, volunteer Marilyn Westbrook said she was disappointed but not surprised.

"I don't feel he cares about the American Indian people," said Westbrook, as she collected donations of gas cards and money to enable fellow Red Lake members to make the 260-mile journey to the reservation. "Why hasn't he made any statements about what happened with this shooting?"

Staff writers Dana Hedgpeth in Red Lake and Peter Baker in Waco, Tex., and research editor Lucy Shackelford in Washington contributed to this report.
#363

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

LOL. Oh, Papa. Enjoy Ohio. I hear they like your kind.
I'm not angry at my circumstances in any way.
However, it's amazing you'll comment on something and dare to suggest I know nothing of it when it's clear I do. Bush is against everything I stand for. Worse, he's actually against everything my home region stands for, they're just too stupid to know it, because, any time a Republican feels threatened, they try to deflect it back to their accuser with some ad hominem attack (as you are so apparently well-versed) or else they go, "but Jesus! Jesus!"
And then stupid people vote for them.

***Edited again for one final comment***
I just have to know, Papa. Do you feel for Terri? Do you grieve for her? Do you feel her parents are in a horrible situation and that your Bushy pal and his cronies are behaving honorably? Because, based on your snarky-ass comments to me about my family, you certainly don't give a rat's ass about what a family must go through when confronted with health issues.
God send you or your wife don't get cancer.
Actually, on second thought, maybe it'd teach you a little humility a la Job.

Updated On: 3/25/05 at 12:56 PM

#364

For a Little Black Comedy....

For a Little Black Comedy....

Try a Ebay search....

Cufflinks? Terri as Joan of Arc

Updated On: 3/25/05 at 12:58 PM

#365

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

and there's the obliviousness that goes with the anger. you really don't see it at all. that's what makes it pathetic. i mean if you embraced it, it'd be one thing but to pretend it doesn't exist? that's just sad.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#367

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

Your missed the Terri coffee mug featuring her photo which said "If I Can't Pick Up this Mug, You Must Unplug."
#368

Papa, Can You Hear Me?

Papa, how DO you feel about Terri's condition?

What WOULD you do in Michael's position?

Do you actually have a stance on this issue? Feelings? Thoughts?

Or do you just come here to act out?

Answer the question: What would you do if your wife or your mother were in Terri's condition?

Updated On: 3/25/05 at 01:08 PM

#369

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

hmmm, ya just wished cancer on me or my wife. i wonder if that'll get deleted? then i can save it and pm it to everyone on the board. nope, no anger there.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#370

Papa, Can You Hear Me?

Will you answer my question: What would you do if your wife or your mother were in Terri's condition?
#371

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

Pal, he obviously has nothing to say except to attack me and my anger. Which is, believe it or not, making me mad.
I can see the smug expression that must be forming on his face, too, at the thought of having pissed off another Democrat.
In actuality, I'm just pretty sad. Sad that, for the party currently trying to corner the market for compassion, the poster boy for Republicans on BWW is showing himself to be the insensitive little sh*t he is.

Nice icon, by the way, DG.

***edited again***
Papa, while I certainly don't wish you or your wife dead, maybe you'd learn a little humility and understanding for the suffering of others and try to see it from their point of view if you had to go through it.
I watched my grandmother die from liver failure. That was fun. We played cards.
Watched my great-grandmother die in illnesses related to Alzheimer's. More fun. Watched Weekend at Bernies.
Watched an aunt waste away in a nursing home with a severe mental disability. Good times were to be had playing Truth or Dare with the nursing staff.
Watched my mom's mother die of cancer. We held a barbecue.
Watched my mom's dad die of emphysema. We held another barbecue, this time with Ann Coulter popping out of a cake, then holding a seance to contact the spirit of Senator McCarthy.
Since it's all fun and games to you, thought you might like to know how insensitive we were.

Updated On: 3/25/05 at 01:10 PM

#372

kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

i'm not the poster boy for anything. like the boys in the nba say, and like it says on my blog, i am not a role model.

pal, he obviously has nothing to say except to attack me and my anger.

i thought you weren't angry about anything? how could i attack something that wasn't there?

and pal, when i face st. peter i'll quote from sir george over at the anti-idiotarian:

"we may have delayed her arrival, but with you as my witness i confess that we would not act to hasten it."

r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#373

Terri's parents say: kill that braindead c*nt and give me my money!

Papa, put words in my mouth. I will be sure to amend things from now on to say my alleged anger. :)
But it's so nice of you to take a stance there. Wouldn't want to accuse you of having an opinion.
Do you even have one? You certainly seem to be able to comment on everyone else here and their opinions...
#375

Papa--Will you answer my question:

Papa--Will you answer my question: What would you do if your wife or your mother were in Terri's condition?

Updated On: 3/25/05 at 01:23 PM

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