This whole Ted Cruz thing...

Texas senator Ted Cruz may or may not be running for President released his birth certificate today. It states that he was born in Canada to an American mother. As a Canadian, he cannot be the President of the United States.

Ted Cruz supporters say he can, because he was never a Canadian citizen. Even though he was.

There's also this: http://tinyurl.com/kotz328

I can't even.

Updated On: 8/19/13 at 01:16 PM

The is a fringe of the Birther movement who are fighting to get Ted Cruz disqualified. They have become increasingly more vocal and present among the right wing. That's why he released the birth certificate.

They claim he's not a "naturalized" American citizen. As Joe stated, there is no clear definition.

But, yes, there are anti-Obama Birthers who are now in the uncomfortable position of having to defend the anti-Cruz Birthers or admit that Birtherism itself if wrong.

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Granholm was born in Canada to Canadian parents and later became a naturalized US citizen.

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Racism, javero. Not much more than that.

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OK, here's another edge case.

Hawaii joined the Union on 8/21/59.

POTUS Obama was born on 8/4/61.

Question: had he been born in HI 2 years sooner, would he still be eligible?

I don't know what HI's status was before the admission on 8/21/59.

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That's interesting, actually. If be curious to know the answer to that, also.

I'm curious Javero: Are you an Obama supporter or detractor? I've heard the "what if he was born there earlier- BEFORE statehood?" and find the question to be another way to subtly undermine the legitimacy of his presidency. "If he had been born ONLY two years earlier! Could he be president?"

He wasn't born earlier. He wasn't born in Kenya. He is and was a natural-born American citizen, born in the USA to an American Citizen.

"Question: had he been born in HI 2 years sooner, would he still be eligible?

I don't know what HI's status was before the admission on 8/21/59."

What about all the American presidents who were not born in the U.S. because they were born before 1776? Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Jackson, and Harrison?

It seems it could well be argued that since these presidents were born in Virginia, Mass. and the Carolinas before they were states, a candidate born in Hawaii before it was a state should also be eligible.

In any event, I always argued that in addition to being actually, really and undeniably born in the state of Hawaii when it was a state, and not in Kenya, that even if Obama had been born in Kenya to an American mother, he would/should be eligible. So I'm not going to change my mind on that because it's a candidate I don't support. I leave hypocrisy to the hypocrites.

Since people born in geographic areas that later became U.S. states don't have to be "naturalized" but instead become by operation of law U.S. citizens either at the time the United States became the United States, or at the time their birthplace became part of a state of the United States, than they are "natural born citizens of the United States". It's either one or the other.

Updated On: 8/20/13 at 06:57 PM

"Why are you talking like a troll?"

What's up with the bullying?

I'm not your favorite person to hate, you know...Sue-whats-her-name.

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IS Javero Sue?

Thanks Wonkit.

It's the same reason Tea Baggers can claim to venerate the constitution but have no idea how it works.