To the socially liberal Republicans... — Page 3

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"You are asking me to accept a belief system that I don't agree with."

Now it's a tie for best pot/kettle statement. It really is difficult to choose.

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Updated On: 11/9/04 at 01:11 PM

Thank you jrb for putting it so logically and concisely.

*HUG*

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Exactly, I don't see how demanding equal rights is asking anyone to accept my viewpoint. Honestly, I don't care how Goth or anyone else feels about gay marriage. Let them go to Church everyone Sunday and pray for me to burn in hell if they want to. But as a matter of public policy equal rights should be given to everyone in this country. In fact Goth...isn't supporting a gay marriage ban imposing a certain moral belief on the entire nation?
I know this is something that will not be resolved overnight. I also know that if Kerry got elected he would not have been a gay marriage crusader. But that does not change the fact that the current administration is running on a platform that wants to make discrimination part of the US constitution.

Oh Rodney...that's never going to happen.

Because, although someday it may be proven that same-sex attraction is innate, people can still argue that it is a choice to live as an open homosexual.

Fact is, nothing needs to happen right now in order for GLBTQ people to have thier rights fully protected under the 14th Amend. to the Const.

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Gotham..I don't know what your viewpoint is because I don't remember ever reading what your view on gay marriage is on these boards. And to be honest, I don't really care, I don't know you and probably will never meet you..so if you want to choose to believe gay marriage is wrong..then so be it.
What is wrong is trying to make a certain moral viewpoint written into the constitution. That is imposing a certain groups religious/moral beliefs on the entire Nation. EXAXTLY what you accuse Liberals of doing. When it comes down to it, denying a certaing group basic rights under the constitution is wrong, no matter what you believe..

Erik, people's viewpoints are not changed by screaming at them and calling them names.

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rodney- you have a great point. if it could be proven that homosexuality is a trait one is born with, i believe this fight would be rectified within the next five years. however, what if all homosexual tendencies are not innate? i have a close friend who is a lesbian. by her own explanation she "became" a lesbian after a brutal rape. she unfortunately believes she could never again engage in a sexual relationship with a man because of the trauma she went through. she has been a lesbian for fifteen years. this is just one person, but my question is why does it have to be something that is not chosen? does it matter? that may be dividing those who choose and those who are born that way. how would you include those who are bi-sexual? but i do see your point. it would be a much easier road to equality if science proved homosexuality to be a natural trait.

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Erik, that was a general statement, not meant to be criticism toward you. It was directed toward you, one of the less screechy members of the board, because it's a point that has to be considered and I'm hoping that if I ignore others they will stop screeching.

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Reading this brought back memories of my "question to gays" post. I belive an intelligent level-headed discussion can change many people's minds (it did with my class)

Count me as another hetero who will fight for your rights.

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I go to a really small school (Grades 6-12 with 50 students total) and there are no gays (at least not out). I believe that it is for this reason that people are more comfortable expressing their biggotted thoughts. I am the one student to be involved with theater and one of the only ones to have out gay friends. I had had enough of the biggotry and snide comments so I started the post that I linked below. Everyone here was great in sharing their views and I asked if it was ok with them if I shared it with the class. I can't say everyone in my class changed their views but I know some did, and every little bit counts.

This is just one more way that BWW is changing the world...a little bit at a time.

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Rodney- I agree with you completely...except for the fact that in today's world people can choose their race/gender and the courts have upheld their rights.

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JRB makes another great point.

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jrb has me blocked, so would someone ask him why he's changed his icon again? I was kind of used to the Bush with the red line through his face.

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