USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?- Page 2
USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
#25USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 3:47pm
Would you trust your privacy to this man?
#26USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 3:49pmI wouldn't trust my ficus tree with that guy...or my stash.
brdlwyr
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/14/05
#27USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 3:50pmI think this will become a major issue and Gonzalez will need to explain why he told Congress that the target was limited to suspected terrorists.
#28is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 3:53pm
um, just to be clear guys, is this going to be the issue that topples the republican party? i mean there are so many that have been heralded here before, i just want to try to get ahead of the curve is this one here is the real mccoy.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#29USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 3:57pm
Well, after all, there ARE so many...pick one from column A and one from column B!
And, brd, yes, Gonzales LIED to Congress. Unfortunately, he didn't get a blowjob from anyone...
But, no fear--I think lildogs might volunteer!
brdlwyr
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/14/05
#30USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:10pmI think this issue will have a greater impact on the voters than the unconstitutional wire tapping. This illegal act is so broad that it cannot be defended under the "suspected terrorists" exception that the Administration has created. People have a very basic and reasonable expectation that their phone records will not be disclosed to the government without probable cause.
#31USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:17pm
I think in that case then, the phone companies are culpable. They were asked for their records, and it seems like some chose to turn them over. Others didn't.
I have no problem with my phone records being run through a scan to look for predefined patterns, because I do have nothing to fear, and I'd like to see to it that no one uses our own infrastructure to do us in.
Hamlet's father.
#32USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:22pm
Hey, CK, you ready to give anything further? Because do you really think that surrendering a little bit of freedom and privacy is going to stop?
What's next to come that you'll be willing ot give up? And how soon before you are ok with a required checkpoint when leaving a state, where Homeland Security officers will scan a little barcode in your wrist to monitor your movement between states?
It might sound ridiculous but it's the logical direction we're heading with monitoring and loss of privacy.
#33USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:28pm
The telcoms were coerced by the government and entered into contracts with the NSA to provide access to these records.
Even if the administration did not violate the 4th Amendment (I'll let Dianne Feinstein argue that with congressional scholars), the FISA laws were broken, ignored or nullified.
The larger issue is whether an American president can declare himself above the law. This will probably be the issue that topples the Republican party? Because even die-hard Republicans will say no to a president who puts himself above the rule of law.
Most already have.
#34USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:29pm
It took long enough for them to get there, PJ. They basically enabled this Administration, looking the other way while he touted that old Nixonian adage that "it ain't illegal if the President does it."
That is, unless "it" is an intern.
#35is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:34pmhow were fisa laws broken? you don't need a warrant to get this kinda information, ya never have. all you need is a subpeona. no judge at all.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#36Bippidy-Boppidy-Boo
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:36pm
*waits for Papa to show the subpoena*
Updated On: 5/11/06 at 04:36 PM
#37is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:40pmwho's the clerk of courts for the united states?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#39Yo mama
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:41pm
I'd just like to add, though, that if this action IS perfectly legal and only needs to be accompanied by a subpoena to be so, why didn't they just trot out that information and save us all the moral outrage?
Oh. Right. That must be because they didn't do that.
Updated On: 5/11/06 at 04:41 PM
#40is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:44pmi doubt that there's anything this administration could do now or ever to save ya'll's moral outrage.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#41USAToday: Is the BUSH Administration SPYING on PapaLovesMambo?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:46pm
I doubt that there's anything this administration could do now or ever to save its reputation.
#42is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:50pmwhen the book on the administration is written some half a century or more from now it'll be a lot kinder to him and a lot more vicious towards his critics. remember, history is written by the victors.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#43How You Derrin?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:51pm
I wonder if we'll call him Emperor Bush then, too?
Updated On: 5/11/06 at 04:51 PM
#44is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 4:53pm"his holiness" will suffice, heathen.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#45Sieg Heil!
Posted: 5/11/06 at 5:00pm
And proud of it.
And, since history is written, as you say, by the victors, I suppose Heathen Bush will be elevated to sainthood, too.
What Would Jesus Do, indeed. Obviously, he'd bomb people, spy on everyone, lie about it, then marginalize his opponents through more lies and deceit until they can't stop him.
Updated On: 5/11/06 at 05:00 PM
#46is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 5:05pmand usher in a new era of angry political satirists...which may be his most important contribution to world history.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#48is paljoey obsessed?
Posted: 5/11/06 at 5:14pmsee? who says that bleeding heart commies and bloodthirsty war mongers can't agree on some things?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#49Angry? Muy
Posted: 5/11/06 at 5:15pm
When the history of the Bush administration is written, I hope it will be as good a read as MY PET GOAT was.
Videos