What happened NYC?- Page 2

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/13/12 at 4:47pm

Then we'll get Christine Quinn. What's her position on buttered popcorn and Milk Duds?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/13/12 at 4:51pm

I think *Goth* is doing a fine job trying to stick to the parameters of the discussion he established in the original post of the thread. I think it could be an interesting discussion that does not break down along mainstream political party lines. But some of us can't stop ourselves from reflexively taking it there.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 6/13/12 at 4:55pm

"So Bloomberg, a lifelong Republican ISN'T a Republican? I don't know what gave me the idea he was....except maybe the fact that he is."

Wrong, he was part of the Democratic Party until 01 and he only switched to run for Mayor. He then switched to the Independent party for the last election in 09 but the Republican party decided to back him which was another mistake.

Just a fyi, I'm not a Republican or Democrat, I'm not registered with either party as my views are somewhere down the middle depending on the subjects.

Our wonderful joke of a mayor has done this city more harm then good.

Updated On: 6/13/12 at 04:55 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/13/12 at 5:01pm

NOT that this was the topic of the thread....

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 6/13/12 at 5:04pm

"NOT that this was the topic of the thread...."

Well it's hard not to talk about Bloomberg when he's the one who brings up all this nonsense.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/13/12 at 5:08pm

I think it might have gone deeper had we not fallen into the same old roles in this thread. Hell, I would have liked a deeper discussion about portion issues in the US, which dovetails nicely with both the mallification and food courtification of US culture AND the emergence of what some call "the nanny state."

[Yawper]

Posted: 6/13/12 at 11:16pm

The 1% aren't huge supporters of fast food joints or the garbage those places generate.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 12:54am

What I find disturbing is the portion size law goes against the concept of "going Green" Instead of one cup, lid cover and straw now you have two if you want the same portion. More waste. More cheap plastic tossed out.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 10:34am

My guess is Ms. Quinn is a fan of both buttered popcorn and Milkduds. And now I'm going to hell.

Although I can't actually stand the little creature from Middle Earth that somehow became our mayor, these policies don't bother me. It's his condescension...his 'knowing better' that cheeses me off.

But as a sometimes smoker, I'm perfectly happy to pop outside for a smoke instead of filling up a crowded space with those noxious fumes. I was in New Orleans this past Xmas, and it was nearly unbearable being in such a smoke-filled room. Even when I was smoking in said room.

I'm actually a fan of posted calories in restaurants. It actually may not change what I order, but it makes me make other choices throughout the day to mitigate the calories I'll be ingesting.

Back in the day, I used to get the larges at movie theatre for only FIFTY CENTS MORE!!! I decided to stop that, mostly because I never finished what I bought. Now, when I go to they movies, I order smaller sizes. The people behind the counter always look at me askance when I say I don't want more for only FIFTY CENTS MORE because I don't want that much food.

Ya know what would really be helpful in curbing the meaningless calories of soda? Banishment of the term 'free refills.' You want that much soda, Diabetes Donny? Then pay for it.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 10:52am

So after collecting my thoughts about this thread, I think my question goes back to "When did people become so uptight?"

In the 1970s, it seemed like people could do their own thing and everyone felt more free. If you wanted to grease your arteries at Burger King, it wasn't a problem. If you wanted to eat granola and berries, it wasn't a problem. There was more of a "live and let live" attitude.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 11:20am

Ya know, I think the 'nanny state' is just a relfection of our nanny culture. At some point, children went from small humans we needed to tolerate to precious resources that need to be protected from every possible threat that exists in the world. At some point, it became de rigeur to hose children down with Purell, lest they actually develop a cold that would help build up their immune systems. When 'play dates' replace unstructured play time, what can we possibly expect as a result except pre-packaged, sanitized 'fun.' I don't know when we crossed that threshold, but I think the Bloomberg administration is in response to the culture, not something that's leading it.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 11:47am

I hate the smoking laws, and this 16 oz idea is idiotic.

If a bar wants to allow smoking, let them. If they want to be smoke free? Good for them! Let the patrons decide where they want to spend their money. If you dont like smoke? Dont go to a smoking bar! Either smoking is illegal or not, but dont make people smoke up a storm right outside my front door! My stoop is like happy hour all evening and I have to wonder who's actually still inside the joint!

Now this thing with the "sugary drinks" is too much more. Making people buy two drinks instead of one? If someone wants to have the soda, they'll get it. To me, this is just silly. Maybe "sugary drinks" are meant to thin out the herd?

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 12:09pm

As I've said before: My grandmother lives in the South. She makes Paula Deen look like a vegetarian. My grandmother has never passed up a second helping of fried chicken, pecan pie or sweet tea. Her idea of exercise is lifting the remote control to change channels when the Lawrence Welk reruns are over. All five of her children were born at home. She's been a patient one time in the hospital when she had a gall bladder attack. She'll be 96 in July. It's all in the genes that you inherit.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 1:04pm

But Goth we also didn't have this problem in the 70's

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 2:04pm

I think stating as fact that it's all in the jeans is as silly as a mayor thinking he's going to keep people from guzzling too much soda.
That sounds more like a reason that some overeat, smoke and drink sugary drinks to the point of making themselves ill.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 2:14pm

It's no more silly than thinking that eating is going to reduce healthcare costs. The two are not related.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 2:18pm

???
Eating as opposed to not eating?

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 2:22pm

"It's no more silly than thinking that eating is going to reduce healthcare costs."
Huh?

The thing the mayor completely ignores is urban food deserts. In many impoverished neighborhoods healthy food choices simply aren't available. Students can go out to lunch and buy two pieces of fried chicken and a tub of soda for $4.00. Or a ton of Chinese food with pitcher of sweet tea for the same price. Many people are priced out of eating healthy. And this "ban" won't do anything to solve that.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 2:49pm

In my opinion, stress plays more of a role in poor health than diet does. Many people who are stressed out turn to food to comfort them. Making people miserable where food is concerned (ie food bans) is not the answer. Get to the root of why people are so stressed out and you will have more healthy people.

[Jane2]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 2:52pm

" Students can go out to lunch and buy two pieces of fried chicken and a tub of soda for $4.00."

They can also buy a slice of whole wheat crust pizza topped with vegetables and a water for the same or less.

" Or a ton of Chinese food with pitcher of sweet tea for the same price."

there are healthy options even with Chinese food. And they don't have to sweeten the tea.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 2:58pm

"They can also buy a slice of whole wheat crust pizza topped with vegetables and a water for the same or less."

Lol. I don't think there is a whole wheat pizza within in miles of the school where I work.

[Jane2]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 3:19pm

I think you got my drift regardless.

I don't accept the excuse that eating healthy is more expensive. That's a whole 'nother thread though.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 3:23pm

I get your drift but don't agree with it. After working here for 9 plus years I know what the reality is.
The whole "they don't have to sweeten their tea" made me laugh too. The places around here don't give that option. They make one big ole batch of sweet tea and dole it out in giant Tupperware like containers for 50 cents. It costs less than a bottle of water.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 3:24pm

Goth, typing words doesnt make you an expert. Does stress play a part, for sure, but stating it as the only or main reason people gain weight is stretching it.

It's also beside the point that these bans on bad habits is the govermnent overreaching and makes me sicker than cigs and "sugary drinks".

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 6/14/12 at 3:24pm

'They can also buy a slice of whole wheat crust pizza topped with vegetables and a water for the same or less.'

Yes...but are those choices particularly accessible in the more underserved urban areas? It's not just about price, it's about access.

I do, however, agree with you that healthy eating doesn't have to be particularly more expensive...especially if you're cooking for yourself.