Why Gay Marriage is Wrong.
#25re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/21/04 at 6:53pmThe minister sounds right on target to me. I can't watch Will & Grace either-it hasn't been funny since 2001. And I don't think gays should be allowed to marry--straights should be allowed to continue marrying if only to punish them.
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#27re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/21/04 at 9:29pm
we should probably just execute all the gays while we're at it!
and will and grace
Updated On: 7/21/04 at 09:29 PM
#28re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/21/04 at 9:39pm
I am a straight woman but I believe in equality.
It is absurd!!!!! If same sex couples male or female want to get married why stop them.
More power to them.
Love is a wonderful thing and everyone should be able to get married if they want to.
Updated On: 7/21/04 at 09:39 PM
#30re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/21/04 at 10:47pmit may suprise those who know me that i will have to agree with much of that. I dont think that the courts have much say in this. Outside of a religious standpoint, there really isn't much arguments against gay marrige.
#31re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/21/04 at 10:49pm
simply: gay marriage is NOT wrong.
pooooo pooo on REASONS.
:)
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#32re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/27/04 at 11:18pm
Here's something that the minister "reformer" of homosexuals mentioned should consider...but probably wouldn't even address: the bible does not in even one passage address "homosexuality" ... despite some poor modern translations that use this word. The word "homosexuality" refers to a "sexual orientation" which is a very modern concept. As a word or concept it has only been around for less than 200 years (obviously not talking about the practice of same sex sex). In ancient days when biblical authors were writing the books of the bible they simply had no concept of sexual orientation. Thus, there is not one verse in the bible that actually refers to the modern psychological concept of homosexuality as a sexual orientation. If anything, they assumed that there was only one orientation....heterosexual. What they seemingly were not in favor of (as "un-natural") was heterosexuals having sex homosexual sex. I agree (to a point) that this is un-natural. Just as un-natural as a homosexual trying to live in a heterosexual lifestyle that goes against his / her nature.
It seems to me that God love diversity...just look around.
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#33re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/28/04 at 12:18am
actually it's kinda specific in what it sees as an abomination. if you're going to study yer bible and try to make this case, try leviticus 20:13 on for size (king james version):
if a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
i'm not saying it's right or applicable and most of the rest of leviticus deals with sacrificing animals and the worth of slaves, but i think that's pretty clear description of same sex acts, hence homosexuality (which literally translates from the as "of the same sex" being a hybrid of the greek prefix homo meaning same and the latin root sex). so i guess as long as the gay couple remains celibate and sleep in separate beds, or avoid the missionary position they might escape death and abomination.
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#34re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/28/04 at 12:26am
The point I am making is that neither verse has to do with homosexuality at all. They do refer to same sex acts. The point is an important one if you want to understand the scriptures of the jewish and christian people, and do so in the light of the advances in science and the social sciences. Homosexuality is understood as a sexual orientation today. Very few educated persons (including most christian theologians) use the term this way...although some do not.
The bible does not address sexual orientation.
As far as the biblical writers were concerned they were condeming homosexual acts preformed by heterosexuals (after all they assumed that everyone was heterosexual). Ultimate point, the case is not as simple as some fundamentalists would make it. The many "gay" churches are not anti-biblical. There is room for discussion, study, and dialog.
#35re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/28/04 at 12:42amThe point is that there is only one verse in the entire Bible that can be thrown at homosexuals and it sits in the midst of hundreds of archaic laws. People who obsess over homosexuality as a sin have really unbalanced priorities given what the Bible seems to really be concerned with.
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#36re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/28/04 at 12:51am
excellent point. very few of these people seem to apply hundreds of other biblical verses to their own lives.
for instance, almost every one of them seems to have no problem eating ham!
shesings
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#37re: why gay marriage is wrong.
Posted: 7/28/04 at 12:57amI always think it is ironic how people have no point discarding so many things the bible considers to be a sin b/c of times. Such as men not being allowed to trim their beards. Or you can only wear natural fibers. Times have changed. It is hypocritical to say that not everything in the bible is required. If you are going to use the bible as your excuse for everything at least be thorough. Perhaps we should all remember that the bible was WRITTEN BY MEN. It is fallible. It has been translated more times than you can count and into more languages. I'm not saying don't believe in the bible, but don't take every word literally. It was meant to be a teaching device. Most people who preach that the bible says homosexuality is a sin are actually pretty uneducated about the content of the bible as a whole. Or else they are just chosing to omit entire parts as a whole, to make their lifestyles easier.
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