just which set o' lips was they usin' thar, sticky?
So sad to hear about this. I love San Antonio. It does sound like a big "he said, she said" argument, however.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/08
One would begin to think that America is a very repressive society.
"Begin to think"???
Broadway Star Joined: 9/27/03
Why wasn't the mall director asked, "How many heterosexual couples have you thrown out for kissing?"
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/08
"Begin to think"???
The sarcasm was intentional. I've thought for a long time that America is very repressive, not as much as some countries, but a lot more than many.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/08
Krissy you're so right. As Americans, IMO, we'd like to think that we're ahead of the curve and pretty liberal with regards to sex and sexuality. But in reality we're a nation of prudes and teases.
Broadway Star Joined: 10/28/08
"How many heterosexual couples have you thrown out for kissing?"
They get thrown out too. I wasn't there I don't know what happened but I know that if a man and woman were kissing in the malls I go to they would be asked to leave if they got carried away. I don't know that these two gals got carried away. Maybe they did.
My teenage son insisted on wearing one of his band shirts to the mall which had the F word on it. I asked him not to because there were children at the mall. Soon after he got to the mall one of the security guards told him to turn the shirt inside out or leave. As far as I'm concerned they had every right to do that.
I think we're pretty liberal with regards to sex and sexuality but I also think children should not have to witness public displays of it. What am I talking about? I certainly don't like
having to be around any couple who should just get a room.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
When I grew up I saw men and women kissing everywhere I went. I don't know how I managed to survive my youth without a helicopter mom like Radiana controlling every single thing I witnessed. Seriously.
yes, namo. and look what happened: you're an out and proud gay man. i think that says it all.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/08
"I think we're pretty liberal with regards to sex and sexuality"
Are you referring to the USA? Isn't California in the USA?
I don't think doing everything right out in the open is necessarily tasteful, though Tahitians did that until they were polluted by European society, but I think parents are often more traumatized by seeing public displays of affection than children are. I like those european parks that have little unofficial places where city couples can get out into the outdoors and .... couple. Parents know not to send children there.
Broadway Star Joined: 10/28/08
I've been called a lot of things but never a helicopter Mom.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
You should put very dark sunglasses, Bose noise-cancelling headphones and a giant sheet of bubble wrap on your kids.
If that seems harsh, maybe it's because I'm tired of "I'm as progressive as the next person, but I don't like seeing ANY kind of public displays of affection, gay OR normal" lines of discussion.
I bet even in the high quality malls you attend, 9/10 kissing straight couples are never asked to leave, even if they "go too far."
Broadway Star Joined: 10/28/08
Namo I can't afford the high quality Malls. I may see a couple holding hands or with their arms around each other. Sometimes I see a quick kiss. There is nothing wrong with that.
I just think when people start making out in public, it's inappropriate.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Broadway Star Joined: 10/28/08
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
You are absolutely correct, we need to think of the children.
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I prefer not to think of the children when I'm making out.
All the children I know could teach me a thing or two about sex.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
Everything I know about sex I learned from Radiana's son's t-shirt.
"...in San Antonio, of course."
Priest's use of 'of course' offends me more than what happened in the mall.
Updated On: 2/3/09 at 06:06 PM
Broadway Star Joined: 10/28/08
Anyone on this thread have kids? Just wondering why everyone is so adverse to protecting them.
Radiana, there is protecting them and then there is going too far. For the most part, when it comes to things like sex etc, kids no more then the parents realize they do. Also, having older brothers or sisters can help if the kid is younger. I have found growing up that there were things that my parents were surprised to realize that I knew. Of course, they weren't shocked by that fact at all.
I think that Carlin said it best. He talked about how we have no problem showing tons of blood and guts in TV shows and movies. Basically acts that show life ending. However, we do have a problem showing anything sexual or another way to put it is, the beginning of life. This is why I feel that America isn't as open when it comes to anything sexual as other countries are.
Also, if you tell a child something is bad or that they shouldn't do something, then most kids are going to be curious about why that is bad or why they shouldn't do that bad thing and try it themselves. They want to see for themselves why that thing that your forbidding is bad.
Broadway Star Joined: 10/28/08
I agree that there is a point when you go too far. All I am saying is that people who want to engage in foreplay should keep it out of the public eye.
Radiana, you are just so misguided that I don't even know where to begin. I certainly wouldn't call you a helicopter mom (sorry Namo) - based on your own description of your son's shirt, he needs more parental supervision, not less (and the term helicopter mom connotes otherwise). Not that it's relevant to this discussion, at all, but I'm a straight women in my mid 40s with a 17 year old daughter and a 12 year old son (who, for the record, would never walk around with a shirt with the F word on it - they have much more interesting things to say). My children are protected because they have been raised to respect others, ALL OTHERS, and to treat them with respect, without regard to what they look like or who or how they love! They do not need to be protected from 2 people (any 2 people) in love, like or lust displaying affection; rather, that behavior should be welcomed and lauded. I, for one, do not find it hard to believe for one second that this couple was singled out because they are a lesbian couple. I see how my own gay relatives and friends, and strangers all around, are treated with a double standard by seemingly liberal people, and anyone whose head isn't in the sand must see the same thing. That bigotry and double standard is what all our kids need to be protected against; that's what I'm adverse to. Please stop deflecting attention from the real issues - it's disingenuous and naive, at best.
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