could a gay man please enlighten me....
judy_in_disguise
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/31/04
#0could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:14pmWhy is it that Judy, Liza and Barbra are such icons in the gay male world?
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#2re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:18pmI always liked Judy Garland, none of the rest. Especially not Cher *ducks*
LadyGuenevere
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/28/03
#3re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:19pm
"icons in the gay male world"
Someone better enlighten us because that's my goal.
#4re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:22pmI don't know about Judy and Liza, but a lot of gay men I know love to be friends with the bitchiest women they can find. This may very well be what the people I know find appealing about Barbra.
#5re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:28pmcould a gay man please enlighten this gay man, cuz' while they all have nice voices... I don't idolize any of them... STEREOTYPE ALERT... Updated On: 8/11/04 at 06:28 PM
#6re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:30pmSame here Cats, I like Judy Garland because she's an amazing singer...I don't idolize any of them. Don't get it at all.
judy_in_disguise
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/31/04
#7re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:33pmyes, but i'd like to know why the STEREOTYPE exists.
#8re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:34pmYes. I should probably add that while I appreciate the performances a few of them, I don't idolize them at all.
Dollypop
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#9re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:34pm
I can't help you here.
I'm a TGC/PattiLuPone/Loretta Swit fan myself.
#10re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:35pmMaybe because there are large amounts of gay men at their concerts? Updated On: 8/11/04 at 06:35 PM
#12re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:37pmTGC?
#13re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 6:59pmWe just booked Loretta Swit for a special engagement next season.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#14re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 7:16pmBecause both Judy and Liza married gay men.
#15re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 7:41pmShouldn't Bernadette be in this company too???
Dollypop
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#16re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 7:52pmTGC=The Goddess Carol (Channing) Geeze!
#17re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 7:56pmSorry, I've seen it written out before as The Goddess Carol but I never saw it as just TGC.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#18re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 8:28pmSome would say their larger than life persona is the appeal, and in the case of Judy, her hardships and traumatic problems.
#19re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 8:43pmNot that I'm one of those who worship these women (at all, actually), but I think that their STRENGTH is probably what makes them so appealing to the gays....
#20re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 8:49pm
And don't forget the Hugest Gay Icon in the World...the one and only Queen MADONNA !!!!
Well in her case, I believe she is an Icon because from her beginning she always supported gay rights, always embraced and contributed to gay culture and was one of the first voices on the fight against AIDS !
Take care
#21re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 8:55pm
I've always heard it was because the women that are gay icons have suffered much, just as gay men have suffered. These women are tough and have made so much of their lives. I think the fierceness and the glamour is what makes them gay icons.
However, I don't get all that. I just like their voices. It probable relates to an older generation. Young gay guys today aren't as likely to attach to these women. So what are today's gay icons? Porn stars?
judy_in_disguise
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/31/04
#24re: could a gay man please enlighten me....
Posted: 8/11/04 at 11:35pmKristin Chenoweth. I think that covers it.
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