#2
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:26am
I think it should be legal. Though people try very hard, I don't how they can call it constitutional to deny it.
Gypsy - Betty Buckley
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#3
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:27am
I should be able to get married.
Untimately, it doesn't affect straight people.....
Untimately, it doesn't affect straight people.....
#4
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:32am
I'm surprised the question would even come up on this board. Anyway, I've never heard a coherent or remotely reasonable argument as to why it should be illegal.
Updated On: 8/31/04 at 11:32 AM
#5
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:34am
ah make it legal... they're not hurting anyone if they do marry, are they?
::bust a move::
#6
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:39am
i feel the same way if they a man wants to marrie a man why should the US goverment stop them this contree is only free for some people and that seems to be the way it is i am a stronge belive of god and the bible but i allso think that things change
#7
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:40am
I think it's shameful. It goes against nature and the laws set forth in this great land of ours.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#8
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:44am
No where but here in the land of the free and the brave have I felt my individual rights and freedoms more at risk -- give me Germany, Norway, Holland anytime....
"Sir K, the Viscount of Uppity-shire...." -- kissmycookie
#9
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:44am
If "the Dubya" is so concerned about the institution of marriage and the American Family, why doesn't he propose a constitutional amendment to ban divorce? Divorce does more damage to the family than two loving and committed same sex partners getting married.
#10
Posted: 8/31/04 at 11:48am
Duh, Albin. Because that would take away people's constitutional rights to do what they want!
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#12
Posted: 8/31/04 at 12:16pm
bush dosnt think think about who meany gays would re-elect him if he made gay marige legal
#13
Posted: 8/31/04 at 12:17pm
What's this talk about meany gays?
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
#14
Posted: 8/31/04 at 12:22pm
I am so tired of being labeled mean! I'm bitchy, okay?
#15
Posted: 8/31/04 at 12:30pm
FIGHT THE POWER! DON'T LET THE MAN BRING YOU DOWN!!!
Real men are tenors.
#16
Posted: 8/31/04 at 12:45pm
Question for the year:
Exactly how does gay marriage negatively affect straight marriage? If gay people get legally married, do all straight marriages become null and void? Do they immediately lose their rights as married couples? Other than the religious aspects (of which we are supposed to have religious freedom AND separation of church and state, so it is moot), what is the mysterious "threat" to heterosexuals and families?
As long as they are hetero...
Spouse and child abusers are allowed to marry.
Rapists are allowed to marry.
Serial killers are allowed to marry.
Terrorists and assassins are allowed to marry.
Yet Homosexuals are a threat? Would someone PLEASE ask Bush this question at a debate or press conference???
Exactly how does gay marriage negatively affect straight marriage? If gay people get legally married, do all straight marriages become null and void? Do they immediately lose their rights as married couples? Other than the religious aspects (of which we are supposed to have religious freedom AND separation of church and state, so it is moot), what is the mysterious "threat" to heterosexuals and families?
As long as they are hetero...
Spouse and child abusers are allowed to marry.
Rapists are allowed to marry.
Serial killers are allowed to marry.
Terrorists and assassins are allowed to marry.
Yet Homosexuals are a threat? Would someone PLEASE ask Bush this question at a debate or press conference???
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#17
Posted: 8/31/04 at 12:55pm
well, you can;t go to the theater in jeans after the cermeony Shammy!
"Sir K, the Viscount of Uppity-shire...." -- kissmycookie
#18
Posted: 8/31/04 at 12:57pm
Only if they are getting married in a theatre.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#19
Posted: 8/31/04 at 1:09pm
I just bought "Why Marriage Matters" by Evan Wolfson yesterday. I am only on the first chapter but so far it is pretty interesting. It talks a lot about the history of marriage in different cultures and the involvement of the church and government. It also talks about all of the different legal rights and protections that married people are privy to that unmarried folks aren't. Very interesting read, I'll keep you posted as I continue to read.
when you grow up surrounded
by willful ignorance
you have to believe
mercy has its own country
and that it's round and borderless
~Animal, Ani Difranco
#20
Posted: 8/31/04 at 1:27pm
Mister Matt, do you know how awesome you are?
Real men are tenors.
#21
Posted: 8/31/04 at 1:56pm
There is no reason to deny gay marriage. No one is taking the rights of heterosexuals away...and it allows gays to have the same property rights and marriage commitment as straight people.
Equal rights = democracy...religion has no place in our constitution.
Equal rights = democracy...religion has no place in our constitution.
"Life is a lesson in humility"
#22
Posted: 8/31/04 at 2:07pm
The thing it would do is open the door for public monies to be used in the support of gay marriages through benefits. The opposition says they don't want their money used to support that which they find immoral, and use polls to show that a majority of Americans agree with this due to religious conviction. It boils down to letting majority Christian perspective dictate social policy. Interestingly, they don't have a problem taking gay American's money and using it to support their own social agenda. If you take religion out of it, there is no arguement. But 'taking religion out of it' is exactly what the greatest schism in this country is - if not the world.
#23
Posted: 8/31/04 at 2:11pm
I'm so pleased someone finally started a conversation about gay marriage. I've been wanting to opine on this for a while and have not have the opportunity.
Gay marriage makes me want to vomit in my mouth.
Seriously, if you want to really understand about the history of marriage, read Evan's book, but don't stop there. You need to immediately read John Boswell's work on the subject: his "Same-Sex Unions in Premodern Europe" (Vintage Press, 1995) is brilliant as is his "Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality" (Univ. of Chicago Pr., 1981).
Gay marriage makes me want to vomit in my mouth.
Seriously, if you want to really understand about the history of marriage, read Evan's book, but don't stop there. You need to immediately read John Boswell's work on the subject: his "Same-Sex Unions in Premodern Europe" (Vintage Press, 1995) is brilliant as is his "Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality" (Univ. of Chicago Pr., 1981).
Stop worrying about what I'm doing -- focus instead on what you're eating.
#24
Posted: 8/31/04 at 2:21pm
Glad to finally have someone join me on my soapbox, Z. Marriage of any kind for anybody gives me bile.
#25
Posted: 8/31/04 at 2:24pm
Hey SOMMS..can I tap dance on your soapbox? Thanks.
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Ralph Waldo Emerson
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