those of us who make $250,000 or more are vilified — Page 3
#52
Posted: 9/21/10 at 10:37pm
Because they couldn't afford to pay the entire $20,000 per semester at once but can afford to pay a few hundred dollars per month over time? It's not that crazy of an idea.
Yes, but couldn't they have also afforded to pay a few hundred dollars a month while their child was in school towards the tuition? Just don't take out loans down to the last cent of tuition and expenses. My parents made half of what this guy claims he made. My sister and I both went to private universities and after loans and scholarships, my parents paid a leftover amount each month towards tuition. Between that and a very generous (read: despicable) FAFSA response, my sister graduated last spring from a private university with less than $20,000 in debt. That's a pretty manageable amount compared to what most students these days are saddled with.
Yeah, we had to have jobs to pay for extras like shopping, sorority dues, trips and "books" (beer), but in retrospect, I'm glad that, as parents of that financial ability, they spent money on what was important in the long run and not just throwing it into my checking account whenever I called and begged- or worse, paying off my credit card bill every month, no questions asked, like many others I knew.
Yes, but couldn't they have also afforded to pay a few hundred dollars a month while their child was in school towards the tuition? Just don't take out loans down to the last cent of tuition and expenses. My parents made half of what this guy claims he made. My sister and I both went to private universities and after loans and scholarships, my parents paid a leftover amount each month towards tuition. Between that and a very generous (read: despicable) FAFSA response, my sister graduated last spring from a private university with less than $20,000 in debt. That's a pretty manageable amount compared to what most students these days are saddled with.
Yeah, we had to have jobs to pay for extras like shopping, sorority dues, trips and "books" (beer), but in retrospect, I'm glad that, as parents of that financial ability, they spent money on what was important in the long run and not just throwing it into my checking account whenever I called and begged- or worse, paying off my credit card bill every month, no questions asked, like many others I knew.
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Wanting life but never knowing how
#53
Posted: 9/21/10 at 11:44pm
Yes, but couldn't they have also afforded to pay a few hundred dollars a month while their child was in school towards the tuition?
That payment plan doesn't exist. Or at least it hasn't in any institution of higher learning that I've attended.
And yeah, I graduated college with a manageable amount of debt, too. Part of that is because I worked two jobs on campus and another during the summer - but most of it is because I was privileged enough to have parents and grandparents who could put their funds together and pay for most of the (very high) tuition. Again, though, that was a privilege. And one that plenty of people don't have.
(Including me, now. I'm paying for law school on my own with nothing but loans. How very irresponsible of me.)
That payment plan doesn't exist. Or at least it hasn't in any institution of higher learning that I've attended.
And yeah, I graduated college with a manageable amount of debt, too. Part of that is because I worked two jobs on campus and another during the summer - but most of it is because I was privileged enough to have parents and grandparents who could put their funds together and pay for most of the (very high) tuition. Again, though, that was a privilege. And one that plenty of people don't have.
(Including me, now. I'm paying for law school on my own with nothing but loans. How very irresponsible of me.)
#54
Posted: 9/21/10 at 11:58pm
Orangeskittles, you're a GIRL???
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#55
Posted: 9/22/10 at 1:40am
Yes. You're not the first.
I don't know why people get confused, I don't think I try to hide it or anything. Should I talk about my period more? It ended Saturday.
That payment plan doesn't exist. Or at least it hasn't in any institution of higher learning that I've attended.
My parents have done it at two colleges in two states and I believe are doing the same for my brother now in at a third college. I don't remember the whole set up, we arranged to have the financial aide come up short and my parents were billed for the difference.
Again, though, that was a privilege. And one that plenty of people don't have.
Of course. And people who make $250,000 a year definitely have that privilege. If someone can't afford to put a child (or two or three!) through a $40,000 college on a salary of quarter million dollars, the problem isn't the cost of college (because many less well off manage), it's their poor spending habits.
To segue back to the original topic, it's not the government or Obama's fault that they chose to spend $250,000 a year on mortgages for McMansions in Newport Beach and paying back interest on college tuition loans so that they're apparently so financially strained they can't afford to pay anymore in taxes. They've been living too close to the brink and are mad the economy and the current president won't let them continue to get away with it.
That payment plan doesn't exist. Or at least it hasn't in any institution of higher learning that I've attended.
My parents have done it at two colleges in two states and I believe are doing the same for my brother now in at a third college. I don't remember the whole set up, we arranged to have the financial aide come up short and my parents were billed for the difference.
Again, though, that was a privilege. And one that plenty of people don't have.
Of course. And people who make $250,000 a year definitely have that privilege. If someone can't afford to put a child (or two or three!) through a $40,000 college on a salary of quarter million dollars, the problem isn't the cost of college (because many less well off manage), it's their poor spending habits.
To segue back to the original topic, it's not the government or Obama's fault that they chose to spend $250,000 a year on mortgages for McMansions in Newport Beach and paying back interest on college tuition loans so that they're apparently so financially strained they can't afford to pay anymore in taxes. They've been living too close to the brink and are mad the economy and the current president won't let them continue to get away with it.
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Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
Updated On: 9/22/10 at 01:40 AM
#56
Posted: 9/22/10 at 1:46am
Oh, I'm not shedding a tear for anyone at that income level. And again, I think that a lot of the people who are have no idea what a marginal income tax rate is. Even though they presumably pay their taxes. *sigh* But out of all the big expenses to yell at people about, higher education really falls at the bottom of the list for me.
(And hee. I remember when a good two thirds of the folks here seemed to think I was a guy.)
(And hee. I remember when a good two thirds of the folks here seemed to think I was a guy.)
#57
Posted: 9/22/10 at 2:22am
Of course, college is a more sympathetic expense than a new Lexus every year. My original post was more frustration that someone earning $250,000 a year feels they need to take out college loans in the first place. It just seems like more of the "Why pay now when you can pay later?" credit card mindset.
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Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
#58
Posted: 9/22/10 at 5:16am
Until November 2011, college is free here. Many American students apply here. You have to prove you have enough money in the bank to live on for the extent of your education. Housing is a nightmare, but the education is good. They finally decided to start charging for international students next year. Citizens and those of us here on a family visa still attend college for free. At least that isn't a worry for us.
Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!
#59
Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:38am
I think this is one of those things where I know my personal bias is too deep to even be mildly objective. I'm in a three person household (lol, trailerhold) that collectively banks less than 50k a year, with all three people working.
I'm sure someone could come up with convincing arguments about the hardship of someone making $250,000+ but I will never ever take it seriously.
I don't know why people get confused, I don't think I try to hide it or anything. Should I talk about my period more? It ended Saturday.
Welcome to the internet forum gender confusion club. You may be onto something with the period angle. But that tends to make people uncomfortable, so I think I'll try and pepper my posts with anecdotes about my multiple endometrial biopsies instead.
I'm sure someone could come up with convincing arguments about the hardship of someone making $250,000+ but I will never ever take it seriously.
I don't know why people get confused, I don't think I try to hide it or anything. Should I talk about my period more? It ended Saturday.
#60
Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:42am
People sometimes think I'm actually a lady, but I kind of encourage that.
#61
Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:47am
One fun fact I heard on the radio this morning: Newport Beach CA is the most expensive housing market in the country, even more than New York, according to a Coldwell Banker Real Estate report. Hmmmm...
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#62
Posted: 9/22/10 at 11:59am
Phyllis, you are NO lady.
Unless it's in the "lady is a tramp" kind of way.
Unless it's in the "lady is a tramp" kind of way.
#63
Posted: 9/22/10 at 12:12pm
I have been living a life of respectability for three weeks now, thank you very much.
#64
Posted: 9/22/10 at 12:15pm
Three weeks? Damn...I had a week-and-a-half in the pool.
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-- Thomas Jefferson
#65
Posted: 9/22/10 at 12:15pm
Three weeks? congratulations, you are eligible to be the republican nominee for the Senate from Delaware!
#66
Posted: 9/24/10 at 1:37pm
"Todd Henderson feels like he's barely making ends meet. He's a law professor at the University of Chicago. His wife's a doctor at the school's hospital. Their combined income exceeds $250,000. They have a nice house, a nanny, kids in private school, a retirement account and a lawn guy..."A quick look at our family budget, which I will happily share with the White House, will show him that, like many Americans, we are just getting by despite seeming to be rich. We aren't,"
Oh Todd. Bite me. Or have your nanny do it.
Another "poor" sould weighs in
Oh Todd. Bite me. Or have your nanny do it.
Another "poor" sould weighs in
#67
Posted: 9/24/10 at 1:55pm
I wonder if the lawn guy is paid under the table?
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#68
Posted: 9/24/10 at 2:14pm
"If you can't live off $250,000, there's something wrong with you."
Enough said.
Enough said.
#69
Posted: 9/24/10 at 2:16pm
More from the cake eating, 'whining Chicago professor:
Henderson argues that he can't afford higher taxes without cutting back on expenses, which would hurt the economy. He mentions the Mexican immigrant who cuts his lawn, the Polish immigrant who cleans his house, cell phone and cable service, and art classes for his daughter as potential budget cuts.
Count me in on this dude's 'electric lynch mob'.
Henderson argues that he can't afford higher taxes without cutting back on expenses, which would hurt the economy. He mentions the Mexican immigrant who cuts his lawn, the Polish immigrant who cleans his house, cell phone and cable service, and art classes for his daughter as potential budget cuts.
Count me in on this dude's 'electric lynch mob'.
#70
Posted: 9/25/10 at 9:17am
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