*update* president obama no longer wants wounded vets to pay their own way
*update* president obama no longer wants wounded vets to pay their own way
*update* president obama no longer wants wounded vets to pay their own way#1
Posted: 3/18/09 at 10:56am
that seems quite mean-spirited.
you got shot you better pay for it!
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#2
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:00am
You having fun quoting possibilities as probabilities?
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#2
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:03am
Why should Obama treat wounded soldiers any differently from George W. Bush?
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#3
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:05am
Roscoe, you are not allowed to reference the most recent presidential administration, or you get called names by papa.
But, to answer you questions, the soldiers deserve better than how they were treated under George Bush.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#4
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:07amit's not a possibility, ywiw. it's in the budget as "third party collections." the veteran's groups were told, "come up with another way to raise the $540 million that this will generate and we'll consider it."
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#5
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:08amI read about this a couple of days ago, and have been too angry to comment. The fact that it's even proposed is a disgrace.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#6
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:09am
If only McCain were President. He'd look after the interests of the soldiers he so enthusiastically sends into harm's way.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#7
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:10am
No... this is what the article says:
Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.
Lawmakers say they'd reject a proposal to make veterans pay for treatment of war wounds with private insurance.
But the proposal would be "dead on arrival" if it's sent to Congress, Sen. Patty Murray, D-Washington, said.
Murray used that blunt terminology when she told Shinseki that the idea would not be acceptable and would be rejected if formally proposed. Her remarks came during a hearing before the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs about the 2010 budget.
No official proposal to create such a program has been announced publicly, but veterans groups wrote a pre-emptive letter last week to President Obama voicing their opposition to the idea after hearing the plan was under consideration.
The groups also cited an increase in "third-party collections" estimated in the 2010 budget proposal -- something they said could be achieved only if the Veterans Administration started billing for service-related injuries.
Asked about the proposal, Shinseki said it was under "consideration."
"A final decision hasn't been made yet," he said.
And, I agree, that if this is done, it is shameful, and against what Obama campaigned for. It appears that Obama is considering everything - including those options that are not popular to try and solve the muck we are in. If he goes down this path, I will be as outraged as papa and Q. But again, as with other posters, Papa has overstated the current case and undermined his argument.
Updated On: 3/18/09 at 11:10 AM
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#8
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:12amif the gop had tried this the uproar would be deafening. but it's the messiah, so i'll just sit over here and watch as people make excuses for him.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#9
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:13am
"third party collections"
did you even bother to read the article you posted?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#10
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:14amBut isn't privatization the Republican way? Getting the government off our backs and making us all personally responsible for our bloody illegal-invasion-incurred amputations and gunshot wounds?
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#11
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:16am
That pre-emptive letter led to a meeting with Obama and reps, which didn't turn out so well.
"It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan," said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. "He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it."
Link to full article.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#12
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:19am
Yes I did papa, and right now, it is under consideration, and nothing is final.
I have no idea whether third party collections is being used in context of Veterans benefits. It could be used in reference to medicare or some other programs. From what I read, there was no context to this term.
If it is specifically referencing the VA affairs budget, then you point is well taken.
EDIT - and the odd thing is that many private insurance contracts may have exclusions for injuries incurred during wartime. The whole argument makes no sense to me.
Updated On: 3/18/09 at 11:19 AM
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#13
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:21amshhhhh, q. do not speak ill of the king. you clearly just don't understand this. *sigh* typical american. obama knows what's best for you and in this case it's that you need to pay for it.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#14
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:23amYou are a funny funny man papa.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#15
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:26amI agree with everything YWIW said, aside from Papa being funny.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#16
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:39amquiet, mb, or i'll have roscoe string you up.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#17
Posted: 3/18/09 at 11:52am
"Roscoe, you are not allowed to reference the most recent presidential administration, or you get called names by papa."
Which, in my opinion, is valid.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#18
Posted: 3/18/09 at 12:12pmGetting called names by Papa is valid?
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#19
Posted: 3/18/09 at 2:20pm
It's used to be some sort of honor, but now Papi just calls everyone names.
It used to be special.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own treatment of war wounds?#20
Posted: 3/18/09 at 3:32pmWhat I meant was that many of us rightly picked on conservatives for their relentless "But Clinton"ing for YEARS after he was gone, and dismissing criticisms of Obama with "But W" or "But McCain" is exactly the same thing and by rights should be pointed out.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own tre#21
Posted: 3/18/09 at 3:39pm
That trainwreck of a president has been out of office for scarcely two months. Getting mad at liberals for blaming him is hilarious coming from the conservatives who blamed this recession on JIMMY F***ING CARTER and wah-wahed about Clinton YEARS after he retired to Chappaqua - even blaming 9/11 on HIS administration's failures.
During the Clinton administration, we had a huge surplus - so much so that some economists warned us not to spend it too quickly.
That was our problem under Clinton.
Spending all our money TOO quickly.
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own tre#22
Posted: 3/18/09 at 3:49pmnamo, i knew you were really a conservative. and before you ram both feet in that fat trap, pinheadguy, ya might want to look back and see if i ever blamed bubba.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own tre#23
Posted: 3/18/09 at 4:31pm
On a side note, I often wonder how different the Bush Administration's policies would have been with a different VP in office.
This was a pretty classy statement from W.
"CALGARY, Alberta – Former President George W. Bush, making his first public speech since leaving office in January, says he wants Barack Obama to succeed and that it's "essential" to support the new leader.
Bush declined to critique the Obama administration in Tuesday's speech, saying the new president has enough critics and that he "deserves my silence."
Former Vice President Dick Cheney has said that Obama's decisions threatened America's safety. Conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh has said he hoped Obama would fail.
"I love my country a lot more than I love politics," Bush said. "I think it is essential that he be helped in office."
W
Updated On: 3/18/09 at 04:31 PM
re: why does president obama want wounded soldiers to pay for their own tre#24
Posted: 3/18/09 at 5:26pmThe shoes might have been misdirected.
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