A Jekyll and Hyde Question

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A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 1:31pm

I've only recently started to get into this musical, although I've had a recording of it for about a year and a half. I think my recording is the 1994 concept cast, or something like that. I know it has Linda Eder and Carolee Carmello and John Raitt.
Anyways, I really like the songs "Bitch, Bitch, Bitch" and "Bring on the Men".

However when I was looking at the musical on ibdb.com both these songs were not in the song list, so I was going wondering if there were changes made to the show in the process. I can't imagine why they would take out "Bring on the Men", it was actually my favorite on the whole recording

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 1:34pm

It seems like somebody on here said they took out "Bring on the Men" because the actress didn't want to sing it.

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Posted: 12/15/05 at 1:51pm

"Bring on the Men" was in the show when I saw it before it hit Broadway. It actually stopped the flow of the first act in my opinion.

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 2:30pm

Although I never saw J&H prior to it's Broadway engagement, I think that basically they wanted to tighten the focus of the show by having less "rich versus poor" stuff and more "good versus evil" stuff. Hence, the elimination of "Bitch, Bitch, Bitch" (a terrible song anyway), the new lyrics to "Facade," and the replacement of "Bring On the Men" with "Good and Evil." However, the former song was much better, as "Good and Evil" touches on the show's theme with the sublety of a sledgehammer.

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 4:33pm

Good and Evil was added to tie in the battle between Good and Evil with more characters than just Jekyll/Hyde. However, the song Bring On The Men was considered a better choice for Lucy to sing in the club (it is more realistic and suits the character better) and that is why it is in the MTI script and Good and Evil is not.

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 4:34pm

I believe that actress was Linda Eder - and she was unhappy about the change.

I like BITCH, BITCH, BITCH too

I also like I NEED TO KNOW more than...::blanks::

A lot of the concept was better.

Updated On: 12/15/05 at 04:34 PM

#7

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 4:42pm

in all the versions of Jekyll and Hyde which i have seen they kept in Bring on the Men but not Bitch....I've only seen it at community theater level though. so i dunno if its diff for broadway.

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 4:46pm

BSO- I also believe that the majority of the concept was better, but there was just SO much. The big problem with the Broadway incarnation of the show was that they had to condense/change A LOT of the score. Also, and I may be wrong about this, I believe they had to change the special effects company they were using (the one that made the mirror for the pre-BWAY 'Confrontation' scene.

I truly believe that the BEST version of J&H is the current version that you perform when you order the rights through MTI. It includes some of the best parts from the Broadway version but also some of the best stuff that they cut (I need to Know, Bring on the Men.

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David walked into the valley With a stone clutched in his hand He was only a boy But he knew someone must take a stand There will always be a valley Always mountains one must scale There will always be perilous waters Which someone must sail -Into the Fire Scarlet Pimpernel

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 4:55pm

I agree about the MTI version. What you mentioned about the special effects being changed is correct. J&H was used to playing in large houses with the space to handle a large cast onstage as well as large sets and special effects. A lot of the staging, set design, and effects had to be changed and scaled down when it was booked into the smaller Plymouth Theatre.

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/15/05 at 8:08pm

i had always heard that linda liked the song very much..it was a producer/director decision from what i heard. personally, i don't care for "good and evil" and felt "bring on the men" was a much more nightclub-y song for lucy to sing...but whatever...it worked great on the tour!

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 1:49am

the current version you oreder does have "bring on the men" and "i need to know" but the script to the Broadway production is much better and i don't understand why they didn't stick to it. I have transcribed it by watching the DVD and will use it in the production i will be directing after the first of the year.

#12

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 1:50am

Not legally, you ain't.

#13

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 1:53am

Joe Mike, would you mind giving us the name and location of your theatre?

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#14

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 1:54am

HaHaHaHa.

So we can see it, of course.

#15

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Posted: 12/17/05 at 1:57am

Of course! And it'd be a bit of free internet publicity!

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#16

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:02am

And nevermind those men in blue uniforms lurking behind us!

#17

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:03am

You mean the ones with the MTI name badges? Nosirree!

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re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:09am

MTI...NYPD...sure sure!

#19

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Posted: 12/17/05 at 3:19am

LizzieCurry--I hope you're only joking! No one likes a tattletale...

#20

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/17/05 at 12:25pm

People who love internet drama do!

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#21

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/21/05 at 6:02pm

Uh, Liz -- I've changed my mind. I think I'll do MAME instead. [LOL]

#22

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/21/05 at 7:03pm

Mr. Mike- I know that I can not force you to do anything but I would like you to realize (if you don't already) that what you are doing is ILLEGAL and punishable by law.

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David walked into the valley With a stone clutched in his hand He was only a boy But he knew someone must take a stand There will always be a valley Always mountains one must scale There will always be perilous waters Which someone must sail -Into the Fire Scarlet Pimpernel

#23

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/21/05 at 7:26pm

Ssssh, don't give it away!

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#24

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/21/05 at 7:55pm

Not to mention that the Broadway script is TERRIBLE.

So you will be arrested for doing a terrible show!

#25

re: A Jekyll and Hyde Question

Posted: 12/21/05 at 8:11pm

I've been wondering... did Bring On The Men fit better than Good and Evil? Doesn't Jekyll get inspired by Good and Evil to perform the experiment on himself?

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