A good point about Adam Pascal on Rent soundtrack...- Page 3

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:46pm

That's just sad.

I want to revive it. Personally. Exactly as it was. Alas, that's kind of an outrageous ambition.

[BroadwayGirl107]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:47pm

DO IT.

[VivaBohemia]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:47pm

I think seeing Adam in something like that [The Producers] would be funny.
Could be interesting. Like Jeremy, I always wanted him to do something like Sweeny Todd. Out of the box!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:47pm

*shakes piggybank*

Viva, Adam doing Leo Bloom is MILES away from the box. MILES. His comedy needs some... help. (Said with love.)

Updated On: 9/29/05 at 11:47 PM

[VivaBohemia]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:49pm

Could be worse. He could attempt Dame Edna.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:49pm

That made my night!

He does look lovely in a dress. Ahem.

[BroadwayGirl107]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:50pm

LOL! When was he in a dress? And where can I get a picture?

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:51pm

Cabaret.

And... sort of. Hang on. Check your PM's.

[VivaBohemia]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:52pm

That would be a sight. And I would pay to see it. :oD

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/29/05 at 11:55pm

*shakes piggybank again*
Me too!

[VivaBohemia]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 12:01am

Well on that note I will retire and wait for the Rent movie...and then dream of Adam with big breasts and a flashy pink dress with cat glasses. Adieu!

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 12:04am

Oh. My. God.

This brings back thoughts of Temptation, the best bad movie EVER!

Updated On: 9/30/05 at 12:04 AM

[LariTheLoud]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 12:08am

*Wants to see Adam in a dress*

Yay for finished arguments. Less stressful.

I also want to see Temptation, damnit. It sounds so hilarious. XD

[jam_man]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 12:22am

"...but I wouldn't say that at any point in a MUSICAL should quality of voice be sacrificed for anything."

I forgot who said that (even though I JUST copied and pasted it from the post), but I would like to counterpoint that point. Acting in a musical is still acting. If you were acting a part in a play, some characters should (or at least could) be played with different voices for characterization. The same goes for a musical. If, say, Barbara Cook were to sing "The Ladies Who Lunch" like she would sing any other song, it wouldn't work at all because Joanne pretty much needs that voice - not to mention Sondheim wrote the song specifically to be sung like that. That is an extreme example, but the idea is similar. Adam is acting, and based only by his vocal choices, I'd say he did a damn good job.

And remember - it's not just a MUSICAL - it's MUSICAL THEATRE! Even if it is a movie, the concept is the same.

Updated On: 9/30/05 at 12:22 AM

[Marquise]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 3:54am

I wish everyone would just lay off Adam already. He doesn't sound the same way he did in 1996 because he's not the same person he was 9 years ago. He's also apporaching the character from a completely different perspective for a different medium.
He can't be any worse, than say Idina Menzel who can't even sound convinving with that one line she robotically spews out of her mouth from the scene that's featured in the new trailers.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 10:53am

*sigh*

Me too.

But I think that (while this wasn't really much of a "slam") slams on Adam are going to pour in just as fast as the new fangirls will. Theatre fans are critical to begin with, and on top of that, there are a lot of people who dislike and doubt him.

[LariTheLoud]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 1:23pm

Me three!

Keep open minds, everyone!

[BroadwayGirl107]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 3:06pm

Marquise, I haven't been "laying off" ANYONE on this soundtrack, including Idina. I've been equally critical of everyone. This thread happens to be about Adam, which is why I commented on him.

And I can't help but think that your comment on Idina was just to rile me up. I'll refrain from responding, as I'm sure you can figure what my opinion is anyway.
Updated On: 9/30/05 at 03:06 PM

[Bdwyguy30]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 4:39pm

This was sent as a private message but felt I should share it...
you nor I were in that recording studio with any of these people nor were we filming it with them. So the fact that any of us can put these people under a microscope like this is absolute Bull s*^&! I am sorry if that is harsh but geez you would think that you people wrote this show. These are obvious professionals and what they recorded is obviously very good to them and the people who have put money into the film so for those of us who's job it is to sit and critique and wait to find any little "imperfection" that we feel is completely ludicrous. I am sorry but those are my thoughts. some of you on here are making this much more personal than it is. Their jobs are to entertain and play a character simple as that. I am more than positive the end result will be great! but then again you can't please all of the people all of the time.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 4:47pm

Oy. I've no idea what to make of that.

I think part of loving someone's work is being able to put them under a microscope like that -- and I think that being as familiar with someone's work as many of us are should allow us to do so, respectfully. I sort of agree that with this movie, people are probably going to find themselves looking for reasons to nitpick things, but... meh. Whatever.

[BroadwayGirl107]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 4:53pm

I responded to BDwayGuy via PM, but I might as well say it on here as well.

I understand where you're coming from, but my honest opinion is that much of what I hear is simply not serving the score as well as it can. Simple as that. There are many things I hear on this CD that if I were producing, musical directing, mixing, or directing, I'm not sure I'd let them fly.

But to be perfectly honest, I still enjoy listening to it. It's Rent for god's sake, it's not like it's been destroyed. But if you put yourself in say...a musical director's shoes, who basically pick apart every minute detail to make things sound the best they can...I can't imagine letting some things on the soundtrack fly.

That's not to say it's a bad CD. Just that I don't think it reached its potential. It's the difference between good and great. Or great and brilliant. And when you really really enjoy a particular piece of work, don't you want it to reach it's potential? For it to be represented on film and on the soundtrack in its best form?

But you're right...the end product--the actual movie. The important part. That could still end up being fabulous.

And for the record, I've been listening to this soundtrack pretty much non-stop. I enjoy it...I mean it's Rent, I'll pretty much love it no matter what. But that doesn't make me blind to its flaws.

[VivaBohemia]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 9:19pm

Dame Edna just keeps popping in there...

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 10:28pm

Oh, God! Totally ruined! hahah.

[Fizz]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 10:47pm

I personally love Adam's voice on the new cd... In OSG/LMC, he's just been brooding about how his imminent death is slowly approaching and how April died and all that stuff... obviously he isn't going to sound super happy.

I know someone already mentioned the Playbill.com article- it said the same thing I discussed with my friends pre-article. He's acting now. He's also matured in the ten years since RENT and put that maturation in Roger- I imagine all of the withdrawal, April dying, and the HIV and whatnot took a big toll on Roger and forced him to grow up really fast. And then he says how stage performances go by really quick, and with the film he actually had time to really think about the emotions going through Roger's mind at each given moment.

I'm happy with it *waves 'Yay Adam' flag*

[insomniak]

Posted: 9/30/05 at 10:53pm

I agree, Fizz.

Going back to the Ladies Who Lunch thing, I don't think Elaine Stritch sounds pretty on that song either, but it works as a whole. I'll have to let this new rendition of Glory settle a bit more before I can decide if the same principal applies (and I am NOT comparing Adam to Elaine Stritch).