So guys I need your help 
 
My college theatre group is looking at doing a musical in the next year. We have bounced back a lot of shows but it seems that we just dont have the budget to do a show thats a little off base or the amount of talent needed to pull it off acting wise (we are fine design wise) from other show.  Urinetown, Bare, Rocky Horror, We Will Rock You. 
 
the cost of a show royalties is just so huge for us to spend on it.  
 
We Will Rock You is only avalible in the UK, but if we applied owuld there be any chance that we can even get the royalies for it, I mean really. 
 
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		     			LOVE Forever Plaid and The Fantasticks. Check those out. 
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the school just did Forever Plad like 2 years ago and it was hell on earth to pay the royalties for it and the Fantastics was just done at a local theatre, the guy who played the main boy in it now goes to our school, he cant sing a note, so he will instist that if we do that one he gets cast as that role again, and our group being how it is will agree. so to make a long story short as much as I love the Fantastics no
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ROCKY HORROR (I'M IN IT RIGHT NOW, AND LET ME TELL YOU...ITS ONE OF THE HARDEST SHOWS I'VE EVER BEEN IN TO PUT ON. SO MUCH WORK WENT INTO THIS SHOW...IT WAS NUTS) 
 
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BUT THE ONE I WOULD RECOMMEND MOST OF ALL IS: 
LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS
		     						     						
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If you're group is really small that is 
		     						     						
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I don't get this royalties thing. I've been working in professional theatre for over 30 years, and I've found very little difference in the royalties from one show to another. For us, the royalties for a popular, big cast show are the same as for an obscure, small cast show.
		     			A fun little musical that seems to have been forgotten: I LOVE MY WIFE   
  
Cast of 4 plus 4 musicians. 2 scenes...a diner and an apartment.  
  
Score is lively and fun. Script is very funny. A bit dated but keep the story set in the 70s and it will play fine.  
  
Sam French controls the righst and it is not expensive. 
		     						     						
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."     
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre! 
  
I host a weekly one-hour radio program featuring  cast album selections as well as songs by cabaret, jazz and theatre artists. The program, FRONT ROW CENTRE is heard Sundays 9 to 10 am and also Saturdays from 8 to 9 am (eastern times) on www.proudfm.com 
i recommend "They're Playing Our Song".
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One of my college theater groups is doing Lippa's Wild Party without a chorus, that may work.
		     				
		     					
		     			Different companies charge different amounts for shows  
best example I can give when I talked to Sam French a few years back about Grease, it was less then 100 a show, they also have Rocky, which for a smaller theatre was 400 a show, Little Shop(MTI) was around 450 a show, I sing! qute was less then 80 a show, still waiting from the company with the rights to Jerry Springer and the other company with Bare, Zanna Dont, and All Shook Up. 
 
Plays are always much more cheaper royalty wise usually its just a set price per show 
 
the theatre I am using for quotes now seat 209 
the other theatre I refer to is my old high school theatre it seats 725 
 
when we did Little Shop last year on Mainstage I was told the total budget for the show was around 15,000...6 of that was royalties( Scripts and other stuff included) and that was for a 900 seat theatre  
 
Admission  price is also a factor 
I know its a little long but I wanted to explain what I know about royalty companies, which since I am the one that end up dealing with them, I'll just say in I hate MTI cause they think since they have the "more popular" shows they can charge more then anyone else, what do they think everyone is made of money to do a show 
		     						     						
I agree with folkyboy "They're Playing Our Song". A cast of eight evenly divided between men and women and not popular enough to cost you and arm and a leg for the rights. Also it's a fun show.
		     			"best example I can give when I talked to Sam French a few years back about Grease, it was less then 100 a show, they also have Rocky, which for a smaller theatre was 400 a show, Little Shop(MTI) was around 450 a show" 
 
This just isn't true. The prices all differ immensely based on the number of performances you're doing, the number of seats in your theatre, the ticket price, the level of production... there is no "set price" for a title, per show.
		     						     						
		     			The other problem with Little Shop is the plant rental.  Can be much more expensive than royalties.  But it's the main character after all.   
  
Here's a little video a local (very talented) high school student did that shows the workings of a particularly nice plant suite:  
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rO6de-hz2R0 
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		     			This just isn't true. The prices all differ immensely based on the number of performances you're doing, the number of seats in your theatre, the ticket price, the level of production... there is no "set price" for a title, per show. 
 
I think that was the point I was trying to make that the prices were not set for one show but changes with each one and seats and what not
		     						     						
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