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#26

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 2:28pm

"I really wish I could explain but my lack of english langauage is preventing me from going into depth."

Are you Lithuanian?

Or just stupid?

(I'm thinking the latter.)

#27

I really don't speak englsih well! I'm sorry, I speak French! Do any of you know my gender, age, location, family life, money standard? I'm guessing no! So who are you to call me stupid americanboy99? I don't get why people on this site attack eachother with namecalling when they don't agree on something. Sorry if you think I'm snobbish or spoiled but if you knew me, I know you wouldn't feel that way. I started this thread to see if anyone else felt the same way or to hear opposing views not to have people call eachother names because they disagree.

#28

re: Am I the only one...

Posted: 12/16/07 at 3:41pm

Yawn

-Benjamin
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#29

re: Am I the only one...

Posted: 12/16/07 at 4:08pm

Lizzie- I soooooo agree and have been smacked down more than once for bitching about it...

"Have you ever noticed..."
"Dont you hate..."
"I never thought THIS would happen..."

They drive me crazy. You waste time looking at posts in which you have no interest, OR you miss out on ones you do. People think, "I'm such a marketing genius! I'll just tease them with a vague title, and they'll flock to my posting!"

Sorry to bitch, but just think what a mess this board would be if everyone titled their posts like this.

#30

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 4:10pm

The only thing that bothers me is how great broadway performers get devalued in a way when bigger names take over for them in the movie.
Ex: Rosario takes over for Daphne and suddenly all the movie fans think Daphne sucks just because she wasn't in the film. They don't realize that Jonathan Larson picked her for a reason and that Rosario probably couldn't carry a tune in live theatre because her voice doesn't have the power, it's just dubbed.

Otherwise, I think movie musicals are fun and they should in no way stop being made.

"It means nothing to come and sit in a theater night after night and immerse yourself in fantasy, only then to walk out the door and be unchanged in reality. This show will live on in our hearts. But where it truly must survive is in our actions, our compassion and our generousity of spirit towards one another." - Adam Pascal on the closing of RENT

#31

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 4:14pm

"Eg Renee Zellweger in Chicago. Why give someone the role if they can't even sing? It frustrates me to tears."

I thought she did fine in the role.

"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611

#32

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 5:47pm

I find it funny that a lot of people just love movies like West Side Story and think they're fantastic but then dislike a movie like "Chicago" for casting someone like Renee who can't sing. At least the makers of Chicago had enough faith in their stars to let them do their own actual singing...

#33

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 8:11pm

I started this thread to see if anyone else felt the same way

You didn't honestly think you were a one-of-a-kind in that regard, did you? Really?

"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt

#34

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 8:21pm

Why do people crab about Renee's voice? Did Gwen Verdon sound that much (or even ANY) better? How about Ann Reinking's Gwen Verdon impression?

In almost all cases - stage or screen - I'll take an actor with a character voice over someone who's all melisma and perfect pitch.

#35

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 8:50pm

I do agree to a point... but, there are some good ones out there.

I suppose that I wish, instead of taking shows directly off stage and adapting them into movies, that original material would be written specifically to be a movie.

#36

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 9:42pm

Roxie has to use her novelty as a "celebrity" for anyone to care about her as a performer because she's not a great singer or dancer. Zellweger was perfect.

#37

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 10:17pm

Exactly. Same as Sally Bowles in CABARET -- SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A THIRD-RATE SiNGER WORKING IN A SEEDY BERLIN NITE-CLUB! If anything, Liza Minnelli was a jarring casting choice in Bob Fosse's film-adaption since her Sally had an amazing voice which didn't make sense why she'd be working in such a seedy club.

That's what I loved about Sam Mendes' re-invention production -- none of the Sally's were cast for their voices as they were faithful to how the character was written. Thanks to this we were blessed with an interesting (and quite diverse) array of none-musical actresses playing Sally throughout the show's run at Studio 54. Stunt casting much? You betcha -- and it was heaven.

#38

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 10:56pm

For me, it honestly depends on whether I think the movie captures the essence of the show, if it just further elaborates on the reasons I love the show in the first place.

For example, Hairspray--though I absolutely hated the characterization of Penny in it, I feel like it stayed true to the bubbly energy of the show.
Rent, on the other hand, was just a disappointment. Like Roger driving around singing "What You Own"? The overall spectacle just didn't seem to mesh with the ideals of Rent (or what I feel the ideals of Rent are.)

#39

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 11:48pm

My problem is that Renee made me hate Roxie. When I saw the stage show, I liked Roxie a LOT more. Of course, some of that was the script as well.

Jimmy, what are you doing here in the middle of the night? It's almost 9 PM!

#40

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Posted: 12/16/07 at 11:56pm

BrodyFosse123, those are my exact sentiments regarding Liza in Cabaret! I also agree with Phyllis, it's all about being in character. I was watching the Sweeney Todd special the other night, and Sondheim made a comment on how he prefers "actors who can sing to singers who can act". That's what I enjoy watching most - performers who take the role to heart and truly portray it despite the fact there may be flaws in singing.

"I am and always will be the optimist. The hoper of far-flung hopes and dreamer of improbable dreams." - Doctor Who

"Yes, the brutalities of progress are called revolutions. When they are over, men recognize that the human race has been harshly treated but it has moved forward." - Les Miserables

#41

re: Am I the only one...

Posted: 12/17/07 at 12:14am

Actually Melissa Etheridge is "The Only One" who'll walk across a fire for you.

#42

re: Am I the only one...

Posted: 12/17/07 at 10:19am

"Why do people crab about Renee's voice? Did Gwen Verdon sound that much (or even ANY) better? How about Ann Reinking's Gwen Verdon impression?"

Exactly. I thought Renee did a good job in portraying Roxie. Maybe she doesn't have the best voice out there, but neither do Gwen Verdon or Ann Reinking. Renee had that cutesy/naive look and pizzazz that I thought worked well in the role.

"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611

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